Simviation Forum - ATC having a bad day?

Reply #15 - Apr 27^th, 2003 at 11:58am

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I believe major airports have a taxispeed limit of 20kts (in the US) ? I could be wrong, but just an observation..

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Reply #16 - Apr 29^th, 2003 at 3:36pm

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It is my belief that AI stands for Angry Imbiciles.

Location doesn't matter, for example, I had to break right, and go around as an AI landied on my mark on the runway, and was not admonished by ATC at KABQ.

Last night an AI (in my new livery) passed overhead, how it missed my tail is a wonder) landed and ATC told it to clear the runway so it ended up rolling the length of the runway and taking off again. I was in a DC-4, seconds from landing and was unable to get up enough power to go around.

I ducked, stomache goes to throat, and hands began to sweat. This was in a no place runway in Costa Rica.

Aliens? Just drunk AI's I believe.

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Reply #17 - Apr 29^th, 2003 at 3:47pm

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My 2 cents:

I was on final at Milan's Malpensa in a Piper and all of a sudden a jet passes BELOW me and lands, followed by another jet that also passes below me and is told to go around. I'm then told to go around, too. I felt like landing right on top of that miscreant!

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Reply #18 - Apr 29^th, 2003 at 4:16pm

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I've encountered this unruly AI behavior also as I have documented in part 4 of my misadventures at http://paz8473.tripod.com
While on final in Jakarta, there were three of us trying to land at the same time.
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Reply #19 - Apr 29^th, 2003 at 8:08pm

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ATC cleared me to land at KCLE 5R,meanwhile,another flight was cleared for takeoff on 23R,THE SAME RUNWAY!!! Angry

It was nearly a head on.We have Ronald Reagan to thank-busting "PATCO",but thats another topic. what we need is collision/conflict avoidance radar gauges.(heres another job for Tipster!) Grin

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Reply #20 - Apr 29^th, 2003 at 8:28pm

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While on final in Jakarta, there were three of us trying to land at the same time.
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That's happened to me before. I was once minding my own business flying a small prop and was cleared to land number 1. I was on base coming in for landing and 2 large aircraft flew out of no where and landed, although it was too late for me too pull up.

You should have heard ATC screaming bloody hell at them! Grin

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Reply #21 - Apr 29^th, 2003 at 9:44pm

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ATC cleared me to land at KCLE 5R,meanwhile,another flight was cleared for takeoff on 23R,THE SAME RUNWAY!!! Angry

It was nearly a head on.We have Ronald Reagan to thank-busting "PATCO",but thats another topic. what we need is collision/conflict avoidance radar gauges.(heres another job for Tipster!) Grin

LOL - if you download my Baron Panel V2.1,you'll find it's equipped with TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System) Radar.

It's a great gauge by a man called Eric Marciano. It's only limitation in terms of your experience is that it only detects airborne traffic - not stuff taxiing and on a roll down the runway. For that you need K.Y.E.P. radar.

It's a freebie from God called "Keep your eyes peeled" Wink

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Reply #22 - Apr 29^th, 2003 at 9:59pm

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KYEP! Like the good 'ol barnstorming days!

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Reply #23 - Apr 30^th, 2003 at 11:11am

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Happened to me today. I was landing at Dorval YUL, cleared no. 1 for landing 6L and there was a 737 on the runway.

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Reply #24 - May 1^st, 2003 at 7:04am

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Actually I expirienced the same thing my self!
I was flying the pattern, cleard for touch and go, I lowered my flaps and wheels. I was like 700 ft high so close to the runway at 140 knots when this 737 comes at max speed right above me and touches down! of course it took him like 5 minutes to exit the runway so I had to go-around once or twice.
What's the matter with them?

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Reply #25 - May 1^st, 2003 at 9:47am

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I have found that if I have my atc set any higher than 75-80% I am getting over run constantly. But, if the atc is set lower so that the skies are not so full, then I can usually make my approaches just fine and not get overrun by aircraft that like to land at 200knts.

However, you all knew that;)

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Reply #26 - May 2^nd, 2003 at 8:22pm

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Ha! After landing at Osaka their was a 737 on my butt and ATC instructed him to go around, he actually aborted instead of landing on top of me,
I will include the screenshot with part 6 of my misadventures, which is close to completion.

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Reply #27 - May 2^nd, 2003 at 11:30pm

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Have a look for a file called taxispeed.zip or alternatively aispeed_2.zip.

Either of those 2 add-ons will allow you to adjust the maximum taxi speed of A.I. aircraft which will solve the problem. I have mine set at 26 knots which works for me and keeps it realistic.

Do you have a link to the page where those are. I've searched the downloads and can't find them anywhere. I can find a guage called "Taxispeed" but it's like the one you put in the Baron panel for setting the taxi speed of the aircraft you are in.

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Reply #28 - May 3^rd, 2003 at 2:00am

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Sorry Matt, as usual I've no idea where I got them from. If either of them are small enough, I'll e-mail them to you.

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Reply #29 - May 3^rd, 2003 at 2:01am

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Just checked - they're only small. I'll send both.

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