May you live long and prosper! I have encountered this phenomena frequently.I call my oldest son"#1",my minivan is"the shuttle craft"that at present only has 3/4 impulse power.When I agree with someone, I form my hands in a triangle and say"I reach,we are one!",And I named my youngest son,Wesley,after the child prodigy at the helm of the Enterprise.Next time someone hassles you,understand,they have not achived "kolinahr". Dont worry,Zephram Cochran is only a few years off now.I think our detractors need a good long look at a Medusan! Peace and tranquility be unto you.                      Take us out of orbit,Mr.Spaceace-ENGAGE!!!

Sorry guys, I go back to TOS and for me, anything that came after Tiberius and the NCC-1701A seems like a cheap "carry-on-the-tradition" copy......
" Jim, ...he's dead ! "
" Fascinating ! "

Hmmmm.......an interesting, yet intriguing enigma, Space.

In my age bracket (44), I don't get this problem. But I can see how the younger, pre-warp generations might find entertainment in belittling something as harmless and as innocent as a preference (or obsession) with a TV series.

If I was to come across such an attitude, I would just chuck a Worf and growl. That's if I couldn't fell them with my "Q" like wit and sarcasm.

Here in the Continuum (Aust) most have grown out of such behaviour.
Remember, there are only 3 things which cause a person to make fun of or belittle anothers' interests. Jealousy, lack of understanding (stupidity) and childishness. Me thinks the latter be the case here.

Oh, and Craig, I took a little while to cotton onto DS9 also (I think mainly because it wasn't taking place on a ship, and concerned mainly politics and semantics to begin with), but I kept getting the tapes from blockbuster and after the first season or two, things really hot up and you get to know the characters. The Station gets it's own "war ship" (the Defiant) and many a space adventure is had battling and outwitting all kinds of aliens and phenomena. There's even an "arch enemy" - the Dominion. So give it a go for a while. It's especially easy to do now that you can get about 10 or 12 episodes at a time and watch them in a short period. Beats waiting for weekly installments, that you may or may not be able to see.
All this goes for you too, Rifle, you................infidel

The Next generation is the very best ever series and my life would not be complete if i hadn't seen each episode at least 4 times over the years. Just give yourself time to get attached to the characters. 

Live long and prosper........

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I'm glad to hear that you've seen the DS9 series through. I actually cried at the end of the last episode, especially when O'Brien and Julian said goodbye to each other.

I like TOS. The uptightness and the almost....satirical way in which the characters acted was part of the charm. I think it had to do with the fact that then, the possibility of all this actually happening in the future was laughable (no so now), so in order to have the series taken seriously it had to almost be treated as a.................well satire.

"For God's sake, Jim, I'm a Doctor not a gardener".......................lol

To tell you the truth, I'm not practicing what I preach. I rented the first 6 or 8 tapes (2 episodes each) of Enterprise as soon as they became available (TV here is about 18 months behind you blokes) and I was disappointed, and I must admit, I haven't perservered. But I will go down to Blockbuster and get the next 5 or 6 tapes that must now be available because I know there is a good chance I will get to like it.
I can't very well be a Trekkie if I'm not interested in the newest series, can I Rifle?....................lol

so do you have a full size phaser then??
something i have always wanted to get hold of:)

as for the gravity they have artificial gravity i believe the klingons use gravity plating
and as for up down there isnt really an up or down in space inertial dampners are given as an excuse not to notice it

hahah:)
vulcan's  mr fozzer:) not klingon:)lol
believe no, going about how they describe it yes:)
cheers mate:)

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Sorry Craig, I'm never a nit-picker, but this is Star Trek!

Inertial dampers exist so the people (and objects) inside the ship don't end up as paint on the bulkhead when it goes from Zero to Billions of miles per second in a flash.
(At school they'll tell you that "inertia" is the force which acts upon an object to keep it still, when still and keep it moving, when moving. Not to be mistaken for "momentum" which could be used as a replacement for the "keep moving part" but not the "keep still part". P.S. I converted this into people talk, rather than confuse everyone (oh...............God - someone shoot me, Please!..........lol) 

There seems to be no up or down in deep space, simply because there is no reference. When they arrive at a planet, the ship is usually placed in orbit so that the planet is to the side or underneath, as it would be disconcerting to see the planet above. As we know from Shuttle orbit shots, it can look strange if it's upside down compared to the earth.

Oh! And it's Patrick STEWART.

Actually Fozzer, he has an extremely impressive resume, with regard to his Stage, TV and movie credits. I believe he started as a Shakespearian actor.

http://www.gruhlke.de/stewart/

Here'a a good site on him. It contains a WAV. download of him reciting an Antonio Vivaldi....................Oh, yummy, what a beautiful voice. If I wasn't a man............(shut up Steve - Quick) 

My fav qoute "Helm Warp 1 Engage!"

I remember asking this question in one of the previous Trekkie threads and no-one could help, so I try again. maybe someone has seen what I need, or at least a formula to calculate same.

I'd like to get hold of a Warp scale of some sort. Even though it's fictitious, there was a scale worked out, either real or invented, for what each factor represented in terms of light speed.

We all know Warp 1 is the speed of light (C x 1).
Each factor increases exponentially to the point where I know from a couple of mentions in Star Trek episodes and library info that Warp 6 is (C x 392).
Apparently Warp 10 is supposed to be an infinite speed which will place the ship (or object) at every point in the Universe simultaneously (ungraspable for me) however, they speak of Warp 9.95 (Voyagers top speed) as being as "near as damn it" to (C x 1000), ie, 75 years to travel 75,000 light years back to Earth at maximum Warp.

Has anyone seen or know of a chart or scale, or even a formula to calculate what each Warp factor (or part thereof) is?

If anyone has seen an episode or read on a "movie cover story outline" etc that mentions exactly what another of the factors is equal to, that may help if I can get enough reference to work out the formula.

Thanks 

  Since we're on this "Star Trek" thread there is a question I have about its latest incarnation, "Enterprise", that's been bothering me.  Is the character Sub-Commander Ta Pol the same character that presided over Spock's wedding to Te'Pring in the original series?

      (Please excuse any misspelling of the names.)

  Thanks.

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Is this the episode where Spock goes thru the "fon par" (spelling?) and returns to Vulcan only to find that his "intended" has another in mind. Somehow their ends up being a fight to the death between Spock and Kirk. McCoy renders Kirk "dead" by means of an injection so that the rules are satisfied.

If this is the episode you mean, I don't know if the Vulcan woman in charge is the same as she who is depicted in the new series. I'll have a look around and see if I can find out.

Hang on and I get back. 

Hello brensec,
  Yes, that's the episode I'm thinking about.  If she is it would be an "interesting" way to tie the two series together.

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Starfleet technical manuals are available at most Trek related websites,I dont have an address handy,but I know theres lots of them.

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Ok guys I can' believe no one remembers the Hight priestess' name! It is of course T'Pau. The episode is called "Amock Time" and you have the story line quite right there brensec pal!
T'Pau is no relation to T'Pol. Most Vulcan women have names begining with "T'", just like most Vulcan males names that start "SP" but not all. Spocks half brother was named Sybok and then there is also Tuvok.
As for that Warp scale, I'm quite sure it is in the Technical Manual or the Encyclopaedia. Ill try and dig it out later and I'll post a scan of the page if I find it.

Well, Craig beat me to it, but I spent a couple of hours finding my Encyclopedia, so I'm going to give my scale in MPH!

Warp 1 = 670 Million MPH (Light x1)
Warp 2 = 7 Billion MPH (Light x 10)
Warp 3 = 26 Billion MPH (Light x 39)
Warp 4 = 68 Billion MPH (Light x 102)
Warp 5 = 143 Billion MPH (Light x 214)
Warp 6 = 263 Billion MPH (Light x 392)
Warp 7 = 439 Billion MPH (Light x 656)
Warp 8 = 686 Billion MPH (Light x 1024)
Warp 9 = 102 Trillion MPH (Light x 1,516)
Warp 9.9 = 2.04 Trillion MPH (Light x 3,053)
Warp 9.999 etc = 134 Trillion MPH (Light x 199,516)
Warp 10 = Infinite!

Don't blame me if it makes no sence, I copied it right out of the book so blame Michael Okuda!!

Isn't it true that when warp 10 is exceded,time reverses?I.E.,the "slingshot"effect;and what about when the Kelvins seized the Enterprise,and exceded warp 13 on the way to Andromeda?Is this descrepancy due to the difference in calibration charts,as above mentioned?Please elaborate.

Very well,Captain.May I suggest a nightcap of Sorrian brandy?I aquired some at that last seizure from the Ferengi. "Its green!"

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The MASSIVE jumps in the fractional factors after 9 are a little perplexing. Especially when you consider that 5.5 is probably around half way between 214c and 392c, as would be expected.
I've always been good at Maths and Physics, but exponential calculation has always boggled my mind a tad. (There's a good, sound Mathematical expression - the "Tad")................lol

the borgs slipstreams can actually be diverted but doing so, would cause a ship to be thrown from the slipstream something like 5 10 seconds later. as happend to voyager in that episode where they got buired under ice.
and voyagers top speed is 9.975. remember there wasnt a dircet passage to earth from their starting position so they added into account those on the time frames.

if you get a chance to check out the voyager elite force game it shows it as a direct route. but there are many obsticals in the way like you said.
the thing with warp is it cant be used in solar systems as you dont go through obsticals  and at warp a ship cant be turned so if a planet is in the way you go splat, as for how they knew what things were in the way, it started with neelix who knew upto that one nebula then he went onto get the map while getting into a ton of trouble with janeway, then they used maps from other cultures to
and then of coarse they came across omega which made an entire area of space unusable at anything more than impulse

the one thing i dont understand is voyager had to travel through the gamma quadrent before entering the alpha quadrent and the route was only a few light years away from the DS9 wormhole, so why they didnt ever include it in the plan i dont know, ok cardassian space was also there but it would have been a small problem to cut 15 years off the trip time.

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Interesting points Craig. I remember seeing somewhere that Voyager would need to cross the Gamama quadrant. I'm sure they would have used the Bajoran Wormhole had they have got that far, but after seven years of travel, Voyager never got out of the Delta Quadrant until it eventually found the Borg Transwarp Hub and got all the way home.
As for Picard not being promoted, well he turned down the chance to be an admiral in "Coming of age" deciding he was of more use to Starfleet on the bridge of the Enterprise. Also, Kirk tells him not to allow Starfleet to promote him and to do whatever it takes to keep his Starship command. Personally I think he should have taken a desk job years ago and let Ryker (who turned down promotion 3 times even after getting his fourth pip) to take the centre seat.
I would guess that Janeway was given the rank so as to reward her for getting Voyager home, intact, after being cut off from Starfleet for seven years.
What I want to know is what happened to all her crew who where not Starfleet? Chakotay, B'Elanna, Seven of Nine?

well i am truely bored after more research another reason for the long time frame to reach earth is because voyager cannot sustain warp 9.975 for long periods of time as the warp coils tend to burn out

Ah, I see now what you ment about the Bajoran Wormhole Craig. Yes you are right it would have been quicker to take that route. I also got my Gamma and Beta Quadrants mixed up. It is of course the Bata and not the Gamma quadrant that Voyager needed to pass through.
I agree that "End Game" was the best last show. The DS9 final was good in bits and the Next Gen's "All Good Things" was good with that future Enterprise destroying those klingon ships with that huge phaser cannon!
I think it would be nice to see some DS9 and Voyager cast in a future Trek movie.

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I'd like to see more emphasis on Klingons,and the klingon empire.How about a story line where the Klingons deal the Borg their final defeat,in glorios battle,with co-operation of the Federation of course?By the way,you know how some folks have a plastic Jesus on the dashboard of their "shuttlecraft",well,I have a Klingon.LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!! 8)

I definitely hope that there will be more in the way of feature movies. It seems that the obsession has been with TOS and NG, as far as the movies are concerned but as has been said, why not a movie involving the DS9 people and the Station or indeed a continuation of Voyager in the form of a movie. It would be a good opportunity to cover what happened to the "Marquis" crew members. Although I suspect that with all the accomplishments of Belana and Chikote etc, especially all the times they were singularly responsible for saving the lives of the entire crew and the ship, plus saving planets etc, they would have been given pardons for whatever they may have done against Federation Law.
I'm sure they weren't guilty of anything really bad like murder (although they may have killed the odd Cardie in self defence).

Thanks for the look at the map, Craig. It served a couple of purpose for me. Firstly I never knew that the Romulan and Klingon Empires were just inside the Beta Quadrant (although I somehow knew that Earth was near the border between the A & B). Secondly, even though they journey via the Gamma Quadrant and then through the Wormhole to Bajor, may have bben a bit longer (although it seems pretty close), one advantage would have been that it looks like they would have avoided Borg Space (even though they didn't know where it was at the time they set out).

P.S. One of my favourite characters is "Q". I'd like to see another movie in which he plays a good sized role.
Maybe a good plot would be where he lobs on Earth some time after the Voyager crew has come home and, being his usual mischievous self, he takes them all back to the Delta quadrant (in Voyager) and for a while, at least, it seems the hole thing is about to start again.

LOL....what a mongrel!.................