I remember those days! 8)

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Yep, I seem to remember contributing to that fact!

The timings for the fight will have to be discussed. We shall have to take into consideration the groups of people who will be taking part.

The only thing wrong with sunday night is that most will have either school or work to go to and therefore will not be able to attend too long if at all. It seems that saturday night gets in the way of peoples work also.

I would suggest either saturday or sunday afternoon. It's off peak so thats fine and no one should have work. The only problem then is timezones. I think it would be saturday morning for the americans and probably an unearthly hour in australia. So maybe in the early/mid evening of the week end?

We shall try to work somthing of a compromise for all the people who shall be withany luck taking part.

And it will be CFS2.

For some reason I can't get CFS3 to work with Multiplayer, probably because of my slow internet connection.

CFS2 doesn't run well. It will exit's the game for no apparent reason???

i like to join to, but i can only fly with CFS3, that's the only combat sim i have.

about the time zones, if the american people can fly at around 1 o'clock pm, it's perfect for me 

To play CFS3 online effectively you need a super-computer and broadband. If you don't have either then you get a slow connection and a really jumpy game. So we stick with CFS2 I'm afriad.

I'll try to catch Maccers or Scania on MSN at some point to arrange the finer points. When that is settled the details shall be posted and we'll see what happens.

The fights will be timed with GMT cause its simple that way.

Colicab, why don't you buy CFS2? Its only about £15 now that CFS3 is about and is great for Multiplayer.

Just beware of Andrew and come in a plane capable of dodging a Spitfire MkIX.

I personally have a tigermoth, Spitfire MkI and a Bf109E as my ultra-manuverable fleet.

Guess it won't be stock only then 

Best get myself to the download section and get me something other than flying boats and twin engine soarers then.

My P40 from the 'Defence of Australia' will be well out of its depth as well!! 

Well, it's almost as good looking as me so it is about time I got me a Spit to burn the English countryside with

I'm getting all excited now. Set the date!!

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I use "Schuftie" as often as I'm in the Sim. I love the P40. In terms of the look, it's IMO, the best looking fighter to at least start the War. (I even like it over the Spit - for looks). It also turns sharper too, IMO. Just that lack of power.
I've often said that someone really should have spent more time in the early war, trying to get another engine, or a super charger into it.
I've read that the only reason it couldn't have one as standard fit, was the fact that every single one was needed for the P38's (2 per plane, of course) and there just weren't enough.
We have a P40 in the Australian War Memorial. And I keep one in the top left corner of all my posts.........



P.S. As far as I know, there aren't any mods allowed in the SimV Dogfight, are there??  ???

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Kevieb, you do not need to use stock aircraft in the dogfight. As far as I know (Woody will correct me) the only rules on planes are no mods and no jets.
There are some fantastic CFS2 Warbirds here at SimV. Download a few and try them out.

I assume then that by mods it is meant planes with 'bad' dp's etc so they can climb forever, turn on the spot and generally do unrealistic things rather then simply not stock?

As I said, fairly new to this so I guess I haven't got all the terminoligy right yet!!

I have downloaded several of the very good planes from here.
I have just got the excellent Mosquito's that went up in the last few days. My favourite plane as a kid and I wasn't disappointed. It looks amazing and sounds like heaven. This is the first plane I have seen with realistic glass, with reflection and everything. the vc looks fantstic but as the maker said it is a bugger to get of the runway. Took me 3 attempts and even then the runway was a thin line way out of the right window.

Not much use in a dogfight of course (no guns at all) but nothing will catch me. So 0 kills and 0 deaths.
I rarely break even in online ffa so for me that would be a result!!!

You can use any aircraft as long as it was in WWII. So you can Fly a 262 if you with to be a spoil sport. I must say though for those who may want to try a 262 I have a nice plane that can keep pace with it. So I'll be right on yer arse with 4 cannon.

Any piston aircraft are allowed aslong as it is an actual real aircraft.

Those that want to be moving targets come in a nice big bomber. Give the rookies some practice and get blowen up for the cameras.

Also a good screenshot manager is a good. We like to laugh at your misfortunes at the receiving of a vast array of guns.

hey guys i have kept off this topic till now because i dont have CFS2 but i am willing to buy it if its worth it, i can only use it on my computer downstairs which only has a 56k connection, what would it be like playing online with a 56k connection? its a new computer so no worrys about specs. but if it'll work well enough i might consider buying it

ok cool
thanks woodlouse, i'll prob pick up a copy tommorow if i can find it cheap

I've got a 1mb broard band so I don't mind hosting, I've done it a few times before. In fact I ended up hosting on my first ever SimV dogfight because Scannia had to go. I had no idea what I was doing and got stuck in the ready room for about half an hour because I didn't know that the host can't get out of the ready room until every one else comes back in!

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Well, not really. I got my 1 meg about the time the old dogfight finished. I had 600k for about a year before that

think I'll try and see if I'm as good as I think I am

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haha is he that good then???

step upto the plate guys new guy in town
of coarse i'll have a little signs saying that for you to look at while i am floating on the water in my life raft:)

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Sydney, mate. Thank You, yes we do have a beautiful country. (Some interesting picks in one of my posts in the "Where are You From" post.

IMO, the secret (if there is one) to taking out the Betty is come in from the front or the top. I think there's a very accurate 20mm in the rear turret.
If you have a plane with 6 x .50 or cannon, go for recision shots on one wing. it doesn't take much to knock a wing off if you have some fire power (which "Schuftie" does have in 6 x .50).
But basically, as with any bomber, hit and run is the safest way. You won't put them down immediately but you can put them off the "bomb run" and you'll notice alot will go down after some time.
If you sit behind a bomber and try to line him up from within 500 or 600 yards, you'll be meat.  

The biggest problem with almost all WWII planes is they didn't or couldn't carry anywhere near enough ammo for "air to air" attack (bullets, cannon). I think the MK1 Spitfire had only something like 15 -18 seconds of fire.
Even the P47D with it's 3400 x .50 rounds had only 30 seconds or so with the 8 guns.
Those that had a long duration of fire were those with only the two guns (mainly for "bore-sighting") backed up by cannon with, again, limited rounds.
The plane with the most or longest duration of "effective fire" that I have noticed (in my limited knowledge) is the FW190 (not sure which Mark) but it had something like 1000 x .50 thru 2 guns and about 450 - 500 20mm cannon. (maybe someone can clarify which of the 190's this was).
Download it and try it against the Betty's..............

You may well be right there brensec pal. I remember you saying how you had problems getting in and I also remember those formation Spitfire shots that someone posted.
If it was my fault, I'm sorry about that pal. Hope to see you at the new dogfight sometime.

Kevieb,
Sounds like you stayed at the Park Lane Hotel or the one next to it (Something on the park).

There's nothing that beats the views of Sydney Harbour. Most people only see parts of it in photos, films etc and don't realise how big and beautiful it is. Hope you got some good shots. 

ok on the topic of online dogfights, i just tried one out for first time and well, it wasnt working properly my aircraft was acting like it had a few bottles of whisky before hand, if i tried turning it would go the other way and all sorts, i turned autorudder back on after it was turned off somehow and that didnt work. so anyone who has played online have any suggestions

could be,
i wouldnt have a clue really as it was first time out. i'll have to wait till the simv starts up, at least its people i know and understand,
thanks craig

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Oh no, put your mind at rest Hawk. I know for a fact that every time I have a "bad" Dogfight day, it's definitely a problem with the online setup. Definitely.

There can be no other explanation.......................

As you all know I wasn't around last time the SimV games were happening.

Will these games be taking place on the Zone, here via the 'flightboard' or somewhere else?

I guess any other technicalities (fun/ no fun, etc) will get discussed on Sunday.

I should be there. Bank holiday in the UK on Monday so won't have to get up early for work

Looking forward to being shot down by you all. I've got my life raft and shark repelent and I'm all ready to go!!

It's usually done via the zone. The game is called the SimV dogfight and is a private game with password entry only (Maccers or Woody will no doubt give out the password although the old password was simply pete.)
There are two CFS2 game rooms on the zone and I can't for the life of me remember what they are called now but I trust someone will let you all know.

Now the bad news (for those of you hoping for a few easy kills that is) I'll be at Duxford all day on Sunday for the Duxford Spring Airshow and I don't normally get home untill about 9-9:30pm so I may not be home in time to join in. I will pop over to the zone as soon as I get home, but if the game is running, I will not be able to get in.

9-00 pm Sunday GMT. That's 7-00 am Monday in Sydney.
You blokes haven't got Daylight Saving going on over there, or anything that would change the normal 10 hr difference?

Just to make sure of my timing (so I'm not late or early for the very first one), I'm posting this at 11-35 pm my time which should come up as 1-35 pm there. Can someone in Britain give me a time reference?

P.S. Is there some arrangement we can make so that any late comers can get in. Say, a break at 10-00 am and 10-30. (Not for me - I should be on time..........lol ))

Thanks Craig,

You saved me from being an hour late.
So you're only 9 hours behind me....why is this?  ???

Crap, that means it's 6-00 am for me.........Yawn!

Will there be a break, I get disconnected every 2 hours and I dont wanna miss all of  the fight ???

I am in the dark here. Is there going to be a fight this weekend? When, what day etc. I'll try to be there. Atleast I should go to my own creation...

Sunday might be a bit of a problem for me as i'm going sailing that day. Anyway. Please tell... I'll need to dust my tigermoth off and start a new zone account.

So then guys, is it on tomorrow night for sure? If it is, I'll make sure that I try to get home in time to join in!

You bet, because I can only get my chute to deploy about half the time

I hope so Cragie. I'm just shaking the dust off a couple of me European fighters and getting the ground crew to check them over just the once or twice more!!

Parachute is packed.
Beer is cooling.

Ready to go 

See you there guys

How come it didn't work out for some? Problems on the Zone or something?

Anyway, apologies for my absence. Woke up at 0530 but couldn't manage to get out of bed on my own. The Mrs usually helps in such instances but I couldn't expect her to, as she had to get up at 0730 to go to Uni.

So, I laid awake while it all went on without me. Ahhh dear!!

If it's on next week, I think I'll try and stay up all night and doze in my "comfy chair" till it's time.

Thanks 

I hope we can have another try next week. Maybe we should try an IP game from the start?
Brensec pal, sorry you could not make it. I would be happy to give you a game sometime when it's easier for you to join in.

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Thanks Hawker,

I'd like a private shoot-up. It's not so much the timing though.
Even though some may have a heart attack at the thought of getting up at 0530 for fun.........lol. It's not a problem for me, so long as I'm not working the day before or that day (I only do 2 or 3 shifts a week).
The main problem is that my condition is very unpredictable ie, pain etc. I don't know how I'll be until the time comes.
But, as I said, if I sit up in my "comfy" armchair and doze all nite (don't usually go to bed till 1-00 or 2-00 anyway) I should be OK for next week.
So let me know if it's on boys.

I hope it all goes a bit better next week.

i'll be there:)

i prob wont be involved this wekk, i aint feeliing to good
maybe another time though

Well, it seems my idea of dozing in my "comfy chair" worked. I'm here. With an hour to spare.........lol

I'll go over to gamezone about 0600 my time, which is in 30 mins. Is that right, if anyone is here now? 

tonights fight, if you don't want to see the results look away now............

Hey Hawker,

Did you post any of the screenshots you took during the "sortie".

I looked in Raw Screenshots but couldn't find anything.

Thanks 

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Yeah, I did. Last night they were both at the top of the forum, this morning they are on page 3!!! By tonight they will be on page4!!!!! ??? Check them out when you can, I called them "Terrors of the Pacific, SimV Dogfight Part 1 & 2."

I too am working tomorrow, but that in itself would not stop me joining in. However, one of my DVD drives went Ga Ga this afternoon so my machine is in bit right now and I'm stuck with my partner Pamela's crappy old P2 266 with 64 meg 16 meg video and a 56K dial up! Why don't we make a date for next Saturday night, say 9:00pm and get together for a scrap then?
Guys, if you do play tonight, don't forget to take some combat shots! Good hunting.