Simviation Forum - Full automatic landing

Apr 18^th, 2003 at 11:46am

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Does anyone know if there's a way to simulate the fully automatic landing flown by every commercial aircraft ? FS2002 give you the APR button (by the way, is this button along with the ILS frequency enough to set the approach ?), but not a VOR LOCK button or something else that brings you totally down on the runway.

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Reply #1 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 12:01pm

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There are a couple tutorials here at SimV that are worth reading.

It is possible to let the autopilot completely land some aircraft, but the landing can be quite hard. Most pilots usually let the autopilot fly the approach, and disengange the autopilot to flare and touchdown

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Reply #2 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 2:56pm

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I just bought the Dream Fleet 2000 737 for MS2002. It has an auto pilot that disengages at touchdown. Works very well provided you adjust the aircraft speed and flaps for the recommended values. I have also not had any problems using the regular auto pilot feature on other aircraft provided you use the correct landing speeds and flap positons. If you are at the slowest recommended speed for the highest flap degree you can usally let it go down almost to touchdown before disengaged the auto pilot. Cheesy

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Reply #3 - Apr 18^th, 2003 at 3:12pm

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The Auto Approach will only keep you in the ILS cone. You still have to watch and adjust your throttle and flaps. Provided that you set up your approach at the correct altitude and speed to begin with.

My advise: Learn to do a nice clean approach and landing MANUALLY, first.

Much more satisfying.

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Reply #4 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 4:24am

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Depending on the weather, try and land manually but keep an eye on your ILS... just remeber not to "chase" the needles

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Reply #5 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 11:46am

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Depending on the weather, try and land manually but keep an eye on your ILS... just remeber not to "chase" the needles

Hey Henk,

I just thought I'd let you know that my Father was in the Royal Air Force, and when I was with him in Singapore around 1970, we had loads of Shackletons at R.A.F. Changi.

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Reply #6 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 11:55am

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cool

They ARE stunning! if you go onto my page and click on the Shackleton 1722 link you will see pics of the last flying MK3 in the world. We are trying to raise some serious money for her.... There will be a FS version out some time around the end of this year maybe early next year...

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Reply #7 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 1:14pm

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This is sort of related to this topic as this occured when I tried an auto approach. This is sort of an odd problem. Last night I was bringing a 747 into Charlotte/Douglas airport. I set the correct ILS frequency into the correct radio (NAV 1) and made contact with the ILS. I turned on the approach hold switch and the plane just started to fly in circles, I was about 20 knotical miles away from the airport at 3,500 feet. This seems to occur with with all VORs and Radio/autopilot nav aids.

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Reply #8 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 2:24pm

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They ARE stunning! if you go onto my page and click on the Shackleton 1722 link you will see pics of the last flying MK3 in the world. We are trying to raise some serious money for her.... There will be a FS version out some time around the end of this year maybe early next year...

Do you perhaps have some photos that you want to share?

Unfortunately no photos. The taking of photographs on the air base was prohibited at the time. I was only 9 years old and I'm not sure if that was usual or because of Chinese terrorist activity at the time. We had booby trapped bombs going off in Changi at the time.

GREAT photos you have on your site btw! I can't believe the condition of that aircraft. The ones at Changi were complete sheds compared to that! LOL Cheesy

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Reply #9 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 3:22pm

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Well she has a full time crew looking after her and we had the paint given to us. I think 1722 got repainted 2 years ago... I will hopefully be adding some videos soon! please feel free to drop by our forums or to drop me an e-mail Grin

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Reply #10 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 4:25pm

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This is sort of related to this topic as this occured when I tried an auto approach. This is sort of an odd problem. Last night I was bringing a 747 into Charlotte/Douglas airport. I set the correct ILS frequency into the correct radio (NAV 1) and made contact with the ILS. I turned on the approach hold switch and the plane just started to fly in circles, I was about 20 knotical miles away from the airport at 3,500 feet. This seems to occur with with all VORs and Radio/autopilot nav aids.

I've never tried it myself so I'm not sure but I think some planes have an AP setting for a holding pattern. Maybe that's what happened. It may also be caused by setting the AP too soon or too late. I've had the plane try to go around and start on the runway if I engage the AP too near the originating airport. It might also have been trying to re-aquire the approach aid you programmed into it.

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Reply #11 - Apr 19^th, 2003 at 5:36pm

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I figured it out, for the Cessna 182, you have to adjust the VOR onmi bering until the VOR line is centered in the crossairs.

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Reply #12 - Apr 20^th, 2003 at 12:08am

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Yeah very good notice accept that it was explained in FS2002 tutorial Wink

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