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Mar 24th, 2003 at 3:45pm

pete   Offline
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Guys,

Just a reminder as there is a lot of rumbling going on round here & getting at least near to the 'political' fence we like to imagine Wink

Please remember - 'War' is a highly emotional subject.

This site is used by people from nations & cultures throughout the world. ALL are welcome here & politics do not play a part in anything we do.

Just remember not everyone holds the same view. Not everyone is confident of a 'positive' outcome out of all this.
War is always complex. It's simple to those who are short of facts regarding people & culture - but I like to think of SimV forum users as having some baggage in the knowledge division.

So please - water those emotions down & make sure your posts are geared towards sympathy for victims - on both sides of this very barbed fence....

Your understanding is appreciated.
 

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Reply #1 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 4:19pm

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As a member of the San Francisco KRON4 news channel Forum and being constantly bombarded by members flaming each other regarding the war, etc, I posted a reference to our Simviation Site to see how our members avoid politics, etc, and are pleasant to each other.
I asked them to pop over here now and again for a bit of relaxation and stress relief.
...LOL...!
...am I in time...?

Cheers...
Paul.
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Reply #2 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 4:25pm

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SIR YES SIR:)
seriously though.
will do pete, this is definatly a refreshingly pleasnt place to visit, and i havent been able to say that about forums in god knows how long
 
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Reply #3 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 5:08pm

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It is interesting to note that as from tonight the San Francisco KRON4 News Channel Forums have been completely closed down due to constant, violent flaming over the Iraqi war.
So that my quiet, peacefull contribution to the site on other topics has been snuffed out... Cry...!
Lets hope that doesn't happen here... Roll Eyes...!

Cheers all...
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Reply #4 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 5:23pm

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with the great mods we have here i doubt it'll come to that.
 
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Reply #5 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 8:07pm

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Quote:
It is interesting to note that as from tonight the San Francisco KRON4 News Channel Forums have been completely closed down due to constant, violent flaming over the Iraqi war.
So that my quiet, peacefull contribution to the site on other topics has been snuffed out... Cry...!
Lets hope that doesn't happen here... Roll Eyes...!

Cheers all...
Paul.


(England).

Hi, Paul!

I don't think we'll have that problem.  I've noticed that a lot of people (like you and me Wink) have wisely refrained from chiming in on these borderline political threads.  Like Pete intimates, the issues are too complex to handle adequately here.  Rash generalities are bound to step on toes.  The talk quickly gets nationalistic and people assume that everybody in a given nation (including the US) has the same views, and this couldn't be farther from the truth.

Sorry about your KRON forums -- hope they get back to normal soon.

Cheers,
Doug

P.S.  Someone mentioned in another thread that you had inquired about my absence, Paul...  Thanks for the concern Wink.  I'm fine and expect to be butting in more frequently now.
 

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Reply #6 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 8:45pm

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Pete, is there any reason you haven't restricted the talk of the current Iraqi conflict completely?  I seem to recall you saying these forums were a place to get away from the world of politics and such.  Have you changed your mind? ??? Just pondering again. Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #7 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 9:03pm

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I think that we should post news about the war, but please, we don't need the flaming comments. Wink

Don't make any inflamatory posts, just absorb the news. Cheesy
 
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Reply #8 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 9:22pm

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good to keep us reminded pete

personally, i have read about 85% of these forum's posts, and if i come across a political thread, i just read what people have to say and ignore it. i think of this place for flightsimming, not politics, which i am also very interested in, but never the two should be discussed at the same time
 

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Reply #9 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 11:24pm

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Thanks for the reminder, Pete. Grin

Sometimes needed, especially during these "controversial" times. However, this time 'round, as I'm sure you've noticed me comment in several threads, I have found everyone minding their "P's & Q's" and not making personal comments or generalising about any group, be they nation, sex, religion or whatever.

My opinion is that there is a "political aspect" to many things we speak about. This war is a very important part of all our lives, particularly those in the coalition countries. Not to monitor and speak of it would be unnatural and, come to think of it, restrictive.
There is not so much political content than opinion with regard to freedom, threat of harm and concern for our world.

Australia is upset at the US subsidising their wheat farmers and causing our farmers great hardship. That's politics. It's also very uninteresting and not of very much importance except to our farmers (at least it didn't stop us from going to war with the US). So, I think "political" is the wrong description to give to these, shall we call them "controversial" threads.

Also, speaking of "controversial", just one question from one who honestly does not know, to all Americans.............

The word "Yank" has been AFFECTIONATELY used by (Australians especially) since WWII to describe our American friends. I have heard the term used on 1950's Bugs Bunny Cartoons (by Yosamite Sam) and in this forum and others, over a good deal of time, have never had an American take offence.
I believe the Union soldiers in the Civil War were called "Yankees" by their Southern brothers. But apart from this 138 year old reference, I'm unable to find any reason why it might cause offence today.
If one was to be offended, would they be Northern or Southern? (I've looked at the US map and have been unable to find a line which defines those descriptions, given my knowledge of which States were Union and which were Confederate).

Incidentally, the only time in Australian history that we have been a little upset with our US friends is during the War, when the GI's were "stealing" all our women.  Grin

The slogan went like this:

Q.  "What's wrong with the Yanks?"

A.  "They're OVER paid, OVER sexed and OVER 'ere!"
Grin Grin Wink
 

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Reply #10 - Mar 24th, 2003 at 11:51pm

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THATS why i'm proud to be an American  Grin
 

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Reply #11 - Mar 25th, 2003 at 3:41pm

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Quote:
THATS why i'm proud to be an American  Grin


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Reply #12 - Mar 26th, 2003 at 1:45am

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Brensic said, Quote:
Also, speaking of "controversial", just one question from one who honestly does not know, to all Americans.............

The word "Yank" has been AFFECTIONATELY used by (Australians especially) since WWII to describe our American friends. I have heard the term used on 1950's Bugs Bunny Cartoons (by Yosamite Sam) and in this forum and others, over a good deal of time, have never had an American take offence.
I believe the Union soldiers in the Civil War were called "Yankees" by their Southern brothers. But apart from this 138 year old reference, I'm unable to find any reason why it might cause offence today.
If one was to be offended, would they be Northern or Southern? (I've looked at the US map and have been unable to find a line which defines those descriptions, given my knowledge of which States were Union and which were Confederate).

Well, this if off topic (and right in Pete's thread, too Roll Eyes), but here goes.  Believe it or not there are still people in the southern US (the states below the Mason-Dixon line) who feel very strongly about the Civil War, Reconstruction, "carpetbaggers," etc.  I was born and raised in Alabama (about as southern as you can get) and have lived here almost all my life.  Here, the word "Yankee" still usually refers to someone from the North.  I can remember, as a child, being around people who were quite angry about losing the war, and some who didn't learn that "damn yankee" was two words until they were 8 or 10 years old Grin.  (I think you were the one who mentioned the terrific loss of life in the war; and the property damage in the South, loss of family fortunes, economic chaos after the war, etc., spoiled a lot of days Smiley.)  

I have jokingly taken exception to being called a Yankee myself, but I don't think, shall we say, "cultivated" southerners really worry about it much (no offense to Oso or anybody Wink).  If it's said in good cheer, I'll gladly wear it.....  but those days may be getting scarce in some parts of the world Cry.

About the word:  Supposedly the Dutch in colonial New York nicknamed the English settlers in Connecticut "Jan Kees," meaning "John Cheese," and pronounced "yankees."  This was mistaken for plural, and the "s" was dropped.  The term came to include the New England states, then the Union states, and finally, among foreigners, the whole US.

P.S.  I didn't even mind when I was once called a "Tank" (rhyming slang of course) by an Aussie--I was actually proud......  as long as they don't say "Septic Tank" Wink
 

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Reply #13 - Mar 27th, 2003 at 1:31am

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Thanks for the explanation, Doug. Much appreciate.

We certainly don't (and never have) meant any offence by the term Yank, and I'm sure, neither have the Brits. In fact, as I said, it is a affectionate term. So please all US citizens, please treat this as a blanket apology, explanation, excuse for the past and future use of the term. It is really what we call (and have called since WWII) all Americans (regardless of north or south loyalties) and it's so ingrained, especially in a land where more of our language is slang then is not (I have to modify my speech heavily in order to be understood here) that I would have difficulty remebering to edit it from my posts when translating from Australian to English.

As for the Rhyming slang, when we say "Septic" (not Tank) it is not so affectionate............ Grin Wink
 

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Reply #14 - Mar 27th, 2003 at 8:49am

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I actually didn't realize "septic" was in wide use Embarrassed Grin -- Just checked my trusty "Partridge" and learned that the term became very wide-spread when yanks on R & R leave from the Vietnam War "invaded" your country Grin.
 

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