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Non-M$ Flight Sims: Any good ones (Read 2691 times)

Mar 17^th, 2003 at 6:28pm

Iroquois Offline
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I saw an ad for IL2 (it's a WW2 sim for the Soviet Union). It looked pretty good but I have doubts on non-M$ sims. I've played other WWII combat sims but none of them seem to make par with CFS1, 2 and 3. Are there any decent non-M$ sims out there?

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Reply #1 - Mar 17^th, 2003 at 7:13pm

WebbPA Ex Member
I Like Flight Simulation!

FLY! seems to be popular, but I'm not familiar with the pros & cons.

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Reply #2 - Mar 17^th, 2003 at 7:32pm

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Mine, in order of prefence...
(I have all the boxed versions).

1: Flight Unlimited II
2: Flight Unlimited III
3: Pro Pilot '99
4: Longbow
5: Longbow II
6: Apache- Havoc
7: Fly
8: Gunship 2000
9: Flight Unlimited I
10: Team Apache
11: (plus some more, probably stuffed under the bed...)...!

...and loads more for the Sinclair Spectrum and the Amiga 1200.... Grin

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Cheers...
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Reply #3 - Mar 17^th, 2003 at 7:43pm

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There's a demo for IL2 Sturmovik available at www.il2sturmovik.com. It's made by Ubi Soft. It's a big download. (142MB) Going to try it out and report back.

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Reply #4 - Mar 17^th, 2003 at 8:40pm

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Hey Fozzer, howcome FS2002 isn't on that list ??? Roll Eyes

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Undecided

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Reply #5 - Mar 17^th, 2003 at 10:29pm

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Hey Fozzer, howcome FS2002 isn't on that list ??? Roll Eyes

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Undecided

Read the title bud Wink

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Reply #6 - Mar 18^th, 2003 at 12:35am

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oh

Embarrassed

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Reply #7 - Mar 18^th, 2003 at 1:04am

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Lets not forget "European Air War" and "Mig Ally". Both are good sims and are still availiable, in the bargin bin, for about $10.00 U.S.
I believe "European Air War" still has an online following and skins are availiable on some sites.

Also "Forgotten Wars", the next version of "Il-2", just hit the stands last week. It looks good but requires a horse of a machine to run it!

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Reply #8 - Mar 18^th, 2003 at 1:06am

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There are only 2 non-M$ flight sims I have ever liked. They are IL-2, and Janes WWII Fighters. I love IL-2, maybe more than CFS3 and James is an awesome game but a little old-graphics are between CFS1 and CFS2 but its a lot of fun.

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Reply #9 - Mar 18^th, 2003 at 8:27am

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why does no one mention "B-17 Flying Fortress - The Mighty 8th" ??

it's the best and most dramatic WW2 bombersim i've ever played...

additional flight sims: Falcon IV ; Comanche-Hokum ; USAF ; USNF ; Fighters Anthology ; Top Gun: Fire at will and IL-2: Forgotten Battles.

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Reply #10 - Mar 18^th, 2003 at 12:43pm

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I really havn't played a non-MS flightsim in probably 8 years

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Reply #11 - Mar 18^th, 2003 at 1:36pm

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Hey Fozzer, howcome FS2002 isn't on that list ??? Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Undecided

Hi Andrew.... Grin

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...!
You've probably sussed out now that the request was for "non-Microsoft" games....

...!
(I've got FS'98, FS 2000 Pro and FS2002 Pro)

Longbow and Longbow II are FAB helicopter sims, easy to fly, with invincibility and infinite weapons, (I like invincibility and infinite weapons very much!).
(It's the sort of thing our tortoise would like).... Wink

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...!
LOL...!

Cheers mate...
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Reply #12 - Mar 18^th, 2003 at 2:13pm

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I've got Janes IAF and Mig Alley, for some reason I never liked mig Alley though. As for IAF Grin

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I've littered the Mid east with about 600 Migs of the Iraqi,Syrian, Egyptian and Jordainian air forces Grin

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, I think it can still be found Grin

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Reply #13 - Mar 20^th, 2003 at 9:26pm

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B-17, apart from Operation Overlord was (is) the finest flight Sim available on the amiga.

I have B-17 the mighty 8th and as yet have failed to taxi to the run-way. I can't seen to turn the stupid thing.

I would love to have an up to date modern combat flight simulator. Something like the ones you used to get for the amiga.

Games centered around One aeroplane and it's missions with various theatres and levels of threat.

I used to love F117-a Stealth bomber. The trick was to fly really low and you couldn't get hit. All the runways were north-south alligned and if you didnt get your approach lined up perfectly you culd land the plane at a 45 degree angle to the centeline and it would roll straight.

Great fun.

On the PC I'm afraid that nothing really comes close to the M$ games as even though we love to hate 'em (M$ - not the simulators) expandable. I still play CFS1 online with frame rates of 70+ and have recently started mission writing with plans to write missions for modern aircraft.

Ramble over now.

Will Grin

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Reply #14 - Mar 20^th, 2003 at 11:28pm

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Quote:

why does no one mention "B-17 Flying Fortress - The Mighty 8th" ??

I knew I had forgotten one, yes B-17 is a great game. It's one of the best sims out there.

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Reply #15 - Mar 21^st, 2003 at 12:20am

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Here are a few games you should try out, all helicopter simulations, here are the titles. All are made by Global Star Software www.globalstarsoftware.com

Search and Rescue 3 http://www.globalstarsoftware.com/sar3/index.html

Search and Rescue Vietnam MedEvac http://www.globalstarsoftware.com/mini_sites/00238/index.htm

Search and Rescue Costal Heros
http://www.globalstarsoftware.com/mini_sites/00234/index.htm

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Reply #16 - Mar 22^nd, 2003 at 9:15am

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I have one that I don't mind playing from time to time, even though it's a little old.

Nova Logic F16 MRF

The graphics and detail are not near CFS quality but it's a good game, campaign and mission based. Using only the F16 of course.

One good thing is, it should be pretty cheap if it's available.
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Reply #17 - Mar 23^rd, 2003 at 3:07am

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anyone here who still plays Falcon 4.0 ??

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Reply #18 - Mar 23^rd, 2003 at 6:05pm

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I can't get that to work on my PC, I got it as part of a multipack: B-17 the Mighty 8th, European Air War and Falcon 4.0.

Is it any good?

Will Grin

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Reply #19 - Mar 24^th, 2003 at 2:39pm

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I can't get that to work on my PC, I got it as part of a multipack: B-17 the Mighty 8th, European Air War and Falcon 4.0.

Is it any good?

Will Grin

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Hi fag-end..... Grin

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...LOL...!

When I had my lubbly-jubbly 3DFX Voodoo cards all the old games worked fine.
Now that I have "up-graded?" to the latest new-fangled Ge-Force cards, all those lovely old games lie un-used in piles in front of me.....boo...hoo.... Cry

Cry

...!

Cheers Will... Grin

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...!
Paul.
(England)

P.S. one of my favourites, Navalogic's Longbow 2, refuses to work without a 3DFX card!

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Reply #20 - Mar 24^th, 2003 at 4:56pm

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lol,fozzer,thats the disadvantage of new technologies. Wink

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"is it any good?"

man, Falcon 4.0 is the BEST and MOST COMPLEX modern warplane simulation! you just got to download a few updates (altogether about 120megs Grin

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) and that game purrs like a kitten. and it's fun!
ever been dogfighting with a fully loaded F-16 (A-G weapons preferred Grin

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) against a MiG-29 that's pure fun and adrenaline!

okay, i told you enough, now go and install it! Grin

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