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Re: Guess what just turned up at FSPLANET - Part 2 (Read 2828 times)
Mar 7th, 2003 at 7:06pm

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Cool, the previous thread started to have problems so i'm glad there's a new one
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 7th, 2003 at 9:06pm

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As BEERY said in the previous topic:
"Freeware should be free.  Copyright restricts freedom, so I'm against it.  I urge all add-on creators NOT to restrict use of their files.  The fact that we create something doesn't mean it can't be improved upon by others.  If we allow others to freely use our work as a base, we will create a thriving community of add-on authors, and we'll get the best quality work as a result.  If we don't make our work freely available, we create a community where progress is stifled.  I would prefer not to be a part of a community in which my most mediocre efforts would be protected and their use enforced."


The real issue that everyon has with this site is that BOTH the Webmaster and more particularly his Host www.mondalori.com both freely advertise and SELL (for $) your hard work in creating freeware add-ons for the FS community on CDROM.
This is the core of the whole issue and WHY you should put disclaimers in your readme files.
Now Ferdy does NOT put this on his site anymore , BUT the host certainly DO. THEY are the ONES making money out of OUR hard work and GENEROSITY of making freeware files available from sites such as www.simviation.com etc.
Beery, this IS the breach of copyright. It is also theft to knowingly take a file (or anyother object etc), without the owners knowledge or permission.
You could therefore extrapolate that if you download from FSplanet you are most likely in the receipt of stolen goods; of which this is also a criminal offence in Australia (i have no idea as to other countries).

Beery, please don't think that one is berating you etc, far from it. I for one am certainly glad that you have expressed a quite good opinion.
 

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Reply #2 - Mar 7th, 2003 at 10:06pm

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Thought this might give you a chuckle. It's Ferdy's signature in an e-mail he sent in the last few hours (not to me):

Ferdy Serena
Executive Director of FSPLANET.COM
Microsoft's Beta Tester  
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ferdy@fsplanet.com
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Bet they didn't know he was their beta-tester!  

Microsoft prohibit you from declaring yourself as a beta-tester when you're testing one of their products by the way. So he's either ignoring their licence as well, or more likely lying.


I think more than likely he is lying, but a little email to Microsoft should get him going.
 

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Reply #3 - Mar 7th, 2003 at 11:37pm

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Thought this might give you a chuckle. It's Ferdy's signature in an e-mail he sent in the last few hours (not to me):

Ferdy Serena
Executive Director of FSPLANET.COM
Microsoft's Beta Tester  
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ferdy@fsplanet.com
Valencia-SPAIN


Bet they didn't know he was their beta-tester!  

Microsoft prohibit you from declaring yourself as a beta-tester when you're testing one of their products by the way. So he's either ignoring their licence as well, or more likely lying.

yah i bet that is a big load of bogus, i highly doubt he is, and even if he was, i believe microsoft asks them to keep that sort of stuff on the D.L.
 

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Reply #4 - Mar 8th, 2003 at 12:18am

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I think he's lying. Why someone would want to lie about that, who knows Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #5 - Mar 8th, 2003 at 1:05am

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I think he's lying. Why someone would want to lie about that, who knows Roll Eyes

no idea, ego maybe Roll Eyes Grin
and this guy is an adult?  Undecided
 

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Reply #6 - Mar 8th, 2003 at 1:15am

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sure isn't acting like an adult
 
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Reply #7 - Mar 8th, 2003 at 1:31am

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Reply #8 - Mar 8th, 2003 at 1:45am

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Are you going to make any posts under that name? Grin Cheesy
 
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Reply #9 - Mar 8th, 2003 at 11:36am

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ahh crap, i was hoping it would stay a little longer so some others could see it, it was pretty funny Grin Grin
 

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Reply #10 - Mar 8th, 2003 at 12:26pm

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It's almost like his forum is comunistic, because if you post something he doesn't like he deletes it and you
 
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Reply #11 - Mar 8th, 2003 at 3:04pm

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It's almost like his forum is comunistic, because if you post something he doesn't like he deletes it and you

yah i was part of the forum a long time ago and use to post there until i my ip was blocked, i think it was for posting a link to my old site (FSOnline)

that is why i put as the flag the USSR for the little joke membership Wink
 

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Reply #12 - Mar 10th, 2003 at 12:14am

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You know, you would be suprised what the media will pick up anymore. It would be really stupid of them to renew the contract. Especially if the media takes it up.
 

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Reply #13 - Mar 10th, 2003 at 12:22am

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Hmmm, that gives me an idea, Tipster, maybe you can email a few news agencies to take it up, maybe a few news papers, maybe BBC  Wink
 

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I've e-mailed "Watchdog" at the BBC (an investigative consumer affairs programme) and a national newspaper.


Flight Simulation is something of a minority interest, but I suppose that this particular issue comes under the wider general topic heading of piracy.

Whether or not they consider it worth persuing is doubtful in my opinion, but you never know your luck in a raffle. Smiley
they will save it for a slow news day, let me know if they respond, i do have sattelite with bbc Wink
 

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