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Reply #15 -
Mar 8
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, 2003 at 12:30am
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i was think of this too, then sadly i remembered, as ozzy pointed out it is illegal, and sadly it is very tracable.
Even though the guy may deserve it, we don't want to stoop to his level, it just makes it worse
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Mar 8
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yah i was also thinking of doint a 777 repaint with this as my side logo:
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/fspirate.jpg
and the skull and cross bones for the tail
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Mar 8
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interesting idea for a repaint
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Reply #18 -
Mar 8
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sorry i had to do this:
http://membres.lycos.fr/fsplanetforum/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=796&...
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Reply #19 -
Mar 8
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lol, you're funny Bman!
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Reply #20 -
Mar 8
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i was think of this too, then sadly i remembered, as ozzy pointed out it is illegal, and sadly it is very tracable.
Okay, obviously I'm missing something here. What is it that this guy's done that's turning a few presumably ordinary folks on this forum into amoral potential criminals ready to make this guy's life a misery and annoyed that the law stands in their way? Sure, the guy's an idiot, but so what? The world is full of idiots. Why get yourselves all worked up about the shenanigans of one of them? Heck, I can see why folks might get mildly annoyed about this, but I see no point in wasting one's time on this fool?
If the guy wants to be an idiot, there's not much you can do to change that. Dragging your morality into the gutter isn't going to make him any better, but it will make you the worse for it.
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Mar 8
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, 2003 at 9:39am
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We can see different points of view - that is right. We must also consider: running a freeware site with a vast database is extremely expensive! not matter what - it does costs lots of dollars every month! As a honest point of view - asking so little in exchange in order to distribute freeware for 1 year - is justified. -- many sites are diverting into this kind of policy - which will ensure freeware distribution for future - without understress a webmaster - in thinking 'How do I pay those bills every month' - - those sites that adopt this systems - are blistery fast - and I can assure easy I get with adsl downloads speed up to 80 to 90 kb sec - able to switch from a page to another in less than 1 sec!!
We also have a statement from avsim which can prove it:
AVSIM Online is one of the oldest and largest web sites online dedicated to serving the simulation community. Currently we run three servers and have a very large "pipe" connected to the Internet. Our 30+ volunteers, from top to bottom, work daily to bring you the best in simulation news, resources, discussions and files. Those servers, the pipe and our philosophy of continuing improvement in services provided to the sim enthusiast cost money. Lots of money. AVSIM spends tens of thousands of dollars a year bringing you the Premier Resource in simulation. Advertising, commissions from product sales, and other revenue generating efforts on our part do a lot to help pay the bills. But you can help! Donate today to your simulation resource! Help us continue to provide you service and feature enhancements as well as all the great news, files and forums focused on our hobby. Please contribute today - your contribution will be put to good use supporting your hobby and community!
That is true!! and you all should think about seriously - as this cost will only increases in the future and eventually force every freeware distribution database to take necessary action in order to secure its exhistance.
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Mar 8
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, 2003 at 10:00am
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Okay, obviously I'm missing something here. What is it that this guy's done that's turning a few presumably ordinary folks on this forum into amoral potential criminals ready to make this guy's life a misery and annoyed that the law stands in their way? Sure, the guy's an idiot, but so what? The world is full of idiots. Why get yourselves all worked up about the shenanigans of one of them? Heck, I can see why folks might get mildly annoyed about this, but I see no point in wasting one's time on this fool?
If the guy wants to be an idiot, there's not much you can do to change that. Dragging your morality into the gutter isn't going to make him any better, but it will make you the worse for it.
Well said Beery. With the best will in the world I can't see what all the fuss is about. It seems more like the proverbial storm in a tea-cup to me. Would you be so upset if the files had been uploaded by a 3rd party & posted at Flightsim.com? They have a similar First-Class membership option. Pete has forecast that this will soon become the norm, even for sites like SimV.
The mention of sending viruses in some sort of retribution appalls me. I'm surprised it was ever suggested or even hinted at, especially by senior & respected members of this forum. Please think carefully guys. Actually doing it or even inciting someone to do so would be a far worse crime than this Ferdy character was ever guilty of. IMHO
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Mar 8
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, 2003 at 10:11am
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The issue as far as I can tell is not complying with a simple request.
Please do no redistribute to anywhere unless I give permission to do so. Please contact me if you have intentions to upload these files to any site that these files weren't originally uploaded to. I will give permission to do so in most cases
Two of my planes are there also and I put that into my readme file. All he had to do is ask.
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Mar 8
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The issue as far as I can tell is not complying with a simple request.
Please do no redistribute to anywhere unless I give permission to do so. Please contact me if you have intentions to upload these files to any site that these files weren't originally uploaded to. I will give permission to do so in most cases
Two of my planes are there also and I put that into my readme file. All he had to do is ask.
There is no excuse for failing to observe the rules of simple courtesy or refusing to remove files on request.
However, in my own experience it is not practical to try restricting circulation of any "freeware" files posted on the Web. Your conditions are quite clear but I do not see why they are necessary. Some "conditions of use" I've seen are so complex they are almost incomprehensible & I feel the authors are the ones losing out. When I was involved with procuring files any with these conditions would have been dumped without hesitation. I simply did not have the time to seek out the authors & get their permission.
Someone, somewhere will be sure to upload files they like to other websites or post them on their own. I have no objection to this. Providing I am given due credit & nobody profits financially, the more people who can use & get some enjoyment out of my own work, the better I like it. This is surely the point of posting it in the first place. I still cannot see what the fuss is all about. ???
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Reply #25 -
Mar 8
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, 2003 at 10:40am
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I've explained my reasons at some length twice now.
Obviously not everyone agrees with my viewpoint. Nevertheless it remains my viewpoint and the viewpoint of several other people.
I'll continue to persue a man who seeks to profit (note the word "profit" means financially as well as any other definition you may attribute to it) from my work without my permission and contrary to a licence that's very clear and easy to understand.
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Reply #26 -
Mar 8
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, 2003 at 11:13am
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I'll continue to persue a man who seeks to profit (note the word "profit" means financially as well as any other definition you may attribute to it) from my work without my permission and contrary to a licence that's very clear and easy to understand.
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One more point & I'll give in gracefully. I have no connection with or loyalty to any other site but SimV & am not in possession of the full facts. You obviously have good reasons for thinking as you do & carrying on what, to an outsider, looks like a vendetta against the owner of FSPlanet. He must be a very clever individual to be making vast profits from posting freeware files which can be downloaded at no cost. I think Pete would be the first to confirm there's not much profit, if any, to be made from running an FS website.
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Reply #27 -
Mar 8
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He makes his money from the First class membership fees and his cut of the payware CDs that are sold by mondalori.com (who host his files) full of freeware software from his site.
The ad revenue is small potatoes by comparism.
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Mar 8
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He makes his money from the First class membership fees and his cut of the payware CDs that are sold by mondalori.com (who host his files) full of freeware software from his site.
The ad revenue is small potatoes by comparism.
Ah OK. That's different. I had no idea they were marketing Freeware on CDs.
Ad revenue is almost not worth bothering about. The First-Class membership is optional & not illegal. Sites like Flightsim.com have had similar options for years. Most big FS sites including SimV will eventually have to go down this route in order to survive.
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Mar 8
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Well said Beery. With the best will in the world I can't see what all the fuss is about. It seems more like the proverbial storm in a tea-cup to me. Would you be so upset if the files had been uploaded by a 3rd party & posted at Flightsim.com? They have a similar First-Class membership option. Pete has forecast that this will soon become the norm, even for sites like SimV.
the thing is, my friend, that at flightsim.com, they will take the file down if you ask them
also you have a lot more of a chance of getting in without the first class membership there than at fsplanet
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