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Reply #15 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 2:42am

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Possibly because he was creating new ones, rather than choosing old ones regularly. I found a load of old ones the other week, some of which I have no recollection of. Maybe it was one of those beery nights...

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Reply #16 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 7:36am

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I dont know about defragmenting, but i do recomend you get the latest DirectX. version 9 (about 10mb) is currently the latest and can be obtained from the M$ website.

As for myself, i got a great boost of frames after upgrading from direct x 8 to 9.
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Reply #17 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 1:11pm

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I dont know about defragmenting, but i do recomend you get the latest DirectX. version 9 (about 10mb) is currently the latest and can be obtained from the M$ website.

As for myself, i got a great boost of frames after upgrading from direct x 8 to 9.
8) 8)

Anish,
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Thanks Anish! never thought of that!


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Reply #18 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 2:02pm

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I dont know about defragmenting, but i do recomend you get the latest DirectX. version 9 (about 10mb) is currently the latest and can be obtained from the M$ website.

As for myself, i got a great boost of frames after upgrading from direct x 8 to 9.
8) 8)

Anish,
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the kid knows what he's talkin' about! My framerate has increased alot!!!!!!!!
 

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Reply #19 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 4:56pm

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HI  ALL  FS  2002  WORKS  BEST WIN  XP  PRO  AND
250   MEMORY  ATLEAST
 
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Reply #20 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 9:22pm
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Hey Nurseman:

It may be possible that it works best on XP, but my understanding of XP is that it's an OS that was built primarily for business purposes-not gaming. This holds true for Windows 2000 as well. I run it on 98 and my frames rates are just honky dory! I'm glad I didn't upgrade to XP because who in their right mind wants, and correct me if I'm wrong over 1/2 gig of patches? Certainly not this guy. XP is bloatware, and Microsoft does it to stroke the back of Intel. Microsoft claims it's because of features people wanted-sure, whatever. Maybe some people believe that, but this guy certainly doesn't! It's so people will go out there and buy Pentium's but most gamers know AMD's outperform Pentiums in gaming-it's in the benchmarks. Pentium, on the other hand, outperforms AMD in business applications. Again, benchmarks prove it. I emailed the marketing guy at Nvidia because on their first page they had the same rhetoric as Microsoft-GeForce 4 optimized for Pentium! I told this guy in my email that I wouldn't put all of my eggs into one basket-that it was just a stupid business practice. I also told him that most gamers know AMD's outperform Pentiums and told him that the benchmarks prove it.  I then asked him what would happen when the rest of the world finally realizes this? Nvidia took this rhetoric off their page! I may not have an MBA, but I know a bunch of crap when I see it.
 
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Reply #21 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 9:37pm

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With respect, I think you're getting a little confused in terms of the Operating Systems.

Windows 2000 is unquestionably an application (read business) orientated OS. Windows XP, whilst built around the NT kernal, is not.

There are huge amounts of core coding that were completely re-written for XP. It's not just Windows 2000 with patching for home use.

I'd never recommend Win2000 for gaming, whereas XP is just fine. Whether, overall, it's better or worse than Win98 based OS's in terms of gaming performance is arguable. Personally, I've seen no difference and I run a dual boot system with WinXP Pro and Win98SE loaded. The major difference lies in system stability. No blue screens of death in WinXP - period.
 

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Reply #22 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 9:49pm

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No blue screens of death in WinXP - period.


Well, I've had a few! Pretty rare, though. XP is still the most stable OS I've used.
 
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Reply #23 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 9:48pm
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Hey Tipster:

No, I don't believe I am getting confused. XP was primarily designed for business use. It's just a difference of opinion, but that is my understanding. You see, when new things come out, I don't blindly go out and purchase it because it's new. Some people do. And there were quite a few things I found about XP and everyone of them mentioned something to the effect of primary use-business. I know the stability is there, I run XP Pro at work, but I certainly wouldn't use it for gaming. As stated earlier, just a diffenence of opinion, but I do have experience with it-quite a bit. Should visit our website: www.kljsolutions.com We build primarily web-based apps. It's not like I don't know what I'm talking about.
 
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Reply #24 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 9:56pm

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Well, I've had a few! Pretty rare, though. XP is still the most stable OS I've used.



I can honestly say I haven't had one since I installed it over 6 moths ago. However there's nothing perfect and I'm not suggesting XP is. I've no doubt been lucky, but it is, without a doubt, the most stable issue of Windows to date.
 

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Reply #25 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 10:02pm
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Yep, it is stable, but it is the most securtiy vulnerable OS Microsoft ever put out. Have you ever been to Steve Gibson's website? Go to www.grc.com ; A lot of really interesting articles there, and the man is SMART! It was because of his work that Norton Internet Security and others now have a default block in the firewall for UPNP-Universal Plug N Play. You should download his little app to see if yours is activated. You can disable it with his app and reenable it. The app is like 22 kb. Don't confuse this with Plug N Play folks.
 
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Reply #26 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 10:06pm

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Hey Tipster:

No, I don't believe I am getting confused. XP was primarily designed for business use. It's just a difference of opinion, but that is my understanding. You see, when new things come out, I don't blindly go out and purchase it because it's new. Some people do. And there were quite a few things I found about XP and everyone of them mentioned something to the effect of primary use-business. I know the stability is there, I run XP Pro at work, but I certainly wouldn't use it for gaming. As stated earlier, just a diffenence of opinion, but I do have experience with it-quite a bit. Should visit our website: www.kljsolutions.com We build primarily web-based apps. It's not like I don't know what I'm talking about.


Well, differences of opinion are what make us different people Smiley.

However, I'm still puzzled as to why you wouldn't use it for gaming. Whatever your beliefs about it's primary role as a business OS, I for one can say that it runs games (and not just FS2002) perfectly well. Some of the outdated stuff requires the compatibility feature but that's about it.

When I first got XP, I had dual installations of several games on Win98Se and XP Pro to see how they compared. Performance wise, the only game that ever ran better on Win98 (out of the 3 dozen or so I have) was Need For Speed 5, and that was later resolved by updating my graphics drivers.

Allowing for the fact that hardware and software setups produce differing results for different people, my own experience is that you get the same performance with increased stability. I now only use Win98 purely for DOS.
 

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Reply #27 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 10:32pm

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Hey Parkinson, thats a pretty slick idea you have with the partition. Wish you had mentioned that 3 reformats ago for me! Pain when you have to and load ALL those airplanes back in each time. Btw, is the correct format command " format c:\" ?
 

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Reply #28 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 10:42pm
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Hey Tipster:

I know some of the games really do run fine on XP.
As you mentioned, difference of opinion makes us different people. I don't really have any outdated stuff, except for some of the games that I run. It's probably the main reason why I don't go with XP, but certainly not the only reason. Did you go to Steve Gibson's page and download that app I mentioned? You really should. To my surprise, the UPNP was activated on the XP machine at work. It isn't anymore. It's a serious vulnerability, and you really should go to www.grc.com and download Steve's Unplug N Pray app.

Tipster, I thank you for your suggestions and info about your experience with XP. It's clear to me that you are a man, not a child. For if you were a child, you would be, well, not so gracious-for the younger crowd this isn't meant as a demeaning comment.  It is appreciated and refreshing. Cheers, Tipster, have a good one, and if you do get that app I mentioned, please post here if your UPNP was activated. If you have an updated firewall, in all likelihood, it is deactivated. Best to you, Tipster.
 
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Reply #29 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 11:38pm

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Thanks for your kind remarks Andrew.

Asi it happens, I've already got a similar app together with Leaktest and XPdite. All useful tools in XP. I ran them prior to installing SP1 and 2 and they were required at the time.

I'm not sure if MS has plugged those gaps in the service packs as mine were already closed, but I doubt they did anything about the Plug and Play vulnerability.

I run ZA Pro 3 as a firewall with another one behind it which I've never needed thankfully.

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