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Feb 18th, 2003 at 1:24pm

liran_bar   Offline
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Shalom mates!
My fs has been slow for the last couple of month....
and when I say slow I mean:
It's taking me 1 minute to load fs!
When I swich views I Usually get a huge delay of about 15 secs (sometins my computer collapses)!

please help me I am sick and tired of it!


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Reply #1 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 1:54pm

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Hello!

I can speak from personal experience, something you have added to your FS is bogging it down.

1) Try using Windows System Tools. Use Disk Clean-up, then Scan Disk, then Defrag.

2) Reboot your machine.

3) Shut down as many of the programs running in the background as you can to free up system resources.

Now, restart FS and see if that helped. If not, you might have to see what you added, before your simulator started running slow.
I know it's frustrating, but you just have to do a little "deductive reasoning" to find the root cause.

Good luck.
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 2:50pm

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Liran, turn off your anti-virus software whilst running. It knackers things.
Otherwise everything fisharno said was bang on, especially de-fragging! Made a world of difference to my system.

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Reply #3 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 2:57pm

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This kind of has nothing to do with this thread but....
I run that "maintenance wizard" once a week and latley, the disc defrag will not go past 10%. I am watching the system check each cluster and something is happening but it will not pass 10%. It just keeps "restarting".  Anybody got a clue??? ???
 

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Reply #4 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 3:05pm

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This kind of has nothing to do with this thread but....
I run that "maintenance wizard" once a week and latley, the disc defrag will not go past 10%. I am watching the system check each cluster and something is happening but it will not pass 10%. It just keeps "restarting".  Anybody got a clue??? ???


I have a suggestion....  C:\FORMAT
 

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Reply #5 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 3:15pm

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This kind of has nothing to do with this thread but....
I run that "maintenance wizard" once a week and latley, the disc defrag will not go past 10%. I am watching the system check each cluster and something is happening but it will not pass 10%. It just keeps "restarting".  Anybody got a clue??? ???


1 of 2 things:


1) You've almost certainly got bad clusters on your hard drive. This is usually caused by improper shutdowns - power cutoff's (for whatever reason) generally inflicting the most damage.

You may recover the entire drive by formatting but if not, the format process will tell  you it's been unable to recover x amount of clusters and format the drive around them so that they aren't accessed (which would cause an immediate system crash/freeze).

2) You've got a severe file indexing corruption. This can occur under the same circumstances but should be fully recovered by a format.

BEFORE you set about formatting, I'd suggest that you run defrag overnight - just let it run. It may take 10-20 hours but it's possible that it might be able to sort whatever problem you have in the process - thereby saving the re-install. All depends what it is.

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Reply #6 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 3:30pm

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Thanks for the response. I have let it run over night , but that has been only about 10 hours. Should I let it defrag closer to 20 hours? That means I can't fly!!! Grin
Anyway, What is the process to format and where is it located in my PC? I do know that I have lost power a few times recently while my system was on.

This sounds ugly: Quote:
You may recover the entire drive by formatting but if not, the format process will tell  you it's been unable to recover x amount of clusters and format the drive around them so that they aren't accessed (which would cause an immediate system crash/freeze).


QUESTIONS :
Is it safe to do the "format" option?
what actually is it doing?
Will I lose data and/or settings?
How long does it take?  
ow do I access/run the Format program?

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Reply #7 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 3:57pm

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Hey Liran.   Unfortunately, formatting results in a total loss of data.  You would have to reinstall all of your software, including your operating system, all of your drivers, and all of your personal tweaks and addons.  It is an extreme pain but most often does fix problems.  I had to this alot with my first computer. It was a packard bell.  Nice thing about that is it came with a master CD which automatically reinstalled everything.  Most good systems don't have a fix-all CD so you will have to do it manually.  If you still want to atempt this you need to get into dos promt and type c:\format.  I think that is all there is to it.  I haven't done it on my current computer and the PB had an option for formatting on the master CD.  I would give your defrag plenty of time.  I think I probably have some bad clusters aswell since my defrag takes forever to run.  I get that same 10% indication.  I have had to tweak my system sooo much to get it to work with newer games that I don't even want to attemp a format.  My Rig is over 4 years old.    Hope this helps.  I'd ask somebody else about the commands for formatting just to be sure you get the correct command.  CYA
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Reply #8 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 4:09pm

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I'm not sure where I read it, but, the Windows system Scandisk and Defrag will continue to restart if you don't turn off all programs running in the background.

Check the FAQs on Windows.com.

I'm running Windows SE, and used to have the same thing happen. Now, before I do my monthly maintenance, I shut down those programs. Scan Disk takes the longest because I check the "Thorough Scan" and "Automaticlly Fix Errors" buttons.

2 hrs., max, for the whole affair to complete.
 
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Reply #9 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 4:33pm

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Hello!

I can speak from personal experience, something you have added to your FS is bogging it down.

1) Try using Windows System Tools. Use Disk Clean-up, then Scan Disk, then Defrag.

2) Reboot your machine.

3) Shut down as many of the programs running in the background as you can to free up system resources.

Now, restart FS and see if that helped. If not, you might have to see what you added, before your simulator started running slow.
I know it's frustrating, but you just have to do a little "deductive reasoning" to find the root cause.

Good luck.



Hey again fisharno!
I have tried every thing you have mentioned and still no good....
unfortunately I don't remember what addon caused this problem therefore I will appreciate it if you let me know what addon caused your problem

thanx

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Reply #10 - Feb 18th, 2003 at 5:04pm

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Wow! That was a while back. I was running FS2000 at the time. But, if memory serves, I think it was either a bad scenery or panel file install.

Ever since then I have been EXTREMELY careful as to what I add to FS, and how it's done. I try not to use different utilities to install, or tweak FS. I also try to stay away from add-ons that are really large files.

If the problem persists, try to back up all of your add-on files, (scenery, panels, aircraft and utilities), on a removable disk, and remove them from your hard drive. Remove Flight Simulator using the uninstall utility on the FS disk. Then, re-install FS, and start from scratch. You can be more careful, by choosing what you know for sure won't cause problems, and discard what is questionable.

Super-Duper pain in the rear end, but, sometimes things just aren't easy.

Hope this helps.
 
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Reply #12 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 12:37am

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I got it!
thank you (all of you)!
apparently the cause of the problem was my saved flight.... I just found out that I had over 120 saved flights.....!!!!!



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Reply #13 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 1:11am
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You know if you format, you should partition that damn drive so that FS is in the other partition. This is the way I have mine set up, and the best part? If you want to format C: again for any reason, you can, because FS 2002 doesn't install any dll's in your system folder, which is under C:. There's a set back to this though. If you want to install a program that runs with 2002, it won't find 2002 because of the registry getting wiped out, but you can reinstall fs. I have 5 partitions. If I want to reinstall FS, I just take whatever files I already have set up and move them to another partition. When FS is reinstalled, I move the folders back, overwrite, and voila, I have my flight sim back to the way it was before reinstalling!
 
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Reply #14 - Feb 19th, 2003 at 2:28am

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120 saved flights! Shocked

Out of curiosity, how could you not know you had so many?
 
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