Ozzy. This is a debate in which no screaming has yet taken place so why threaten us with a key?

Flasheart, the medium bombers were included because in the last few years of the war medium bombers were used for pinpoint attacks of transportation links and other tactical targets.

And whitey. Even though I got bored of bomber I do know that it was only 1 raid so can you please explain how the rarley saw fighters? I know the main reason is because the nightfighters came from below and had upward firing guns etc. to avoid getting in the bombers field of fire.

I do realise that being in a bomber stream of well over 1000 aircraft would put the chances of being seen down to very small odds. Also is it that the bombers rarely saw the fighters or the other way round or both?

Naa... On second thoughts is would be the Bombers not seeing the fighters...

The german night fighter defences had Ground radar, radios and aircraft radar to help them find the bomber stream...

For your first question I don't know. But thats how it was done in the war so i'm happy.

the bomber was that 6 engined Me626? That big bugger. The fighter I think was a Lagg3 or Me109 I can't remember. Just remember that you gotta get the deflection just right but when your sure you can hit it fire a very short burst and see what happens. For me the enemy aircraft blew up completly. good luck.

G'day Whitey,

I haven't seen you for what seems ages.

Hope yopur well and happy.  See ya round like a rissole.

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Ahh these language differences!!

I thought it was a word that was known in the UK, but I must be mistaken.

It's a meat pattie, hamburger, round peice of minced beef.

ie: "See ya 'round like a rissole."
same as: "Off like a brides nightie"

Okay guys, well I've deleted my offending post, and would like to apologise to you. I just had these horrible visions on another war breaking out between the respective camps on CFS3. A case of leaping before I looked if you know what I mean....
Didn't mean to offend anyone, so I'll go and flog myself now with some birch twigs or something as penance. 
Sorry, didn't mean to upset anyone or overstep the mark.

Mark (a chastened moderator)

luck exists in the real world as well as combat sims.
if a cannon shell explodes on impact, then 1, 2 or even 3 hits to a fuel tank, for example, would ignite  the fuel causing an explosion and bring down the plane, (in lots of pieces usualy).

and dont forget that the p39, lagg3t, me109g had  a large calibre cannon availiable (37mm, 45mm, 30mm respectively) that would do a lot more damage than the 20mm cannon of p38's or spitfires for example, which is why you cant do it in cfs3.

try it with p39 in cfs2, if you've made it flyable, it works there too, so it must have benn possible...right?

just one more thing have you read the testimonials on the 1st page of the il2 manual?

if you look back at my previous post you'll see that i never said the 109 had a 45mm cannon, it was the lagg3t
as for highly unrealistic i thaught i explained that aswell.

well that's it, i've said more than i wanted to, more than once, and i refuse to be drawn any further into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent