Simviation Forum - triple seven Crew question

Feb 11^th, 2003 at 9:41am

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i was just watching a DVD on the United Triple7 and the flight it takes is the O'hare to heathrow route, but the thing that caught my attention was the fact it had a 3 man cockpit crew, i thought it was only meant to carry a 2 man crew or is it just something i have missed before?
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Reply #1 - Feb 11^th, 2003 at 10:56am

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I dont believe it requires three ppl either, what was the third doing?

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Reply #2 - Feb 11^th, 2003 at 3:12pm

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i'm not exactly sure, sort of there to back up the F/O on the radios in an emergancy and he was also doing the map plotting and checking. and also a few of the radio calls along the way. my guess is it was to maybe take some stress off the two up front. but he wasnt just taking a ride in the jumpseat as he was doing the work and was also on the flight back a day later
very puzzling

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Reply #3 - Feb 12^th, 2003 at 3:46pm

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what i know for sure, is that the KLM has 3 pilots in their 747's. a commander, a first officer or co-pilot and a second officer or co-co-pilot. when the captain goes to have a nap, the F/O takes over his job and the S/O becomes the F/O. they always take young pilots for this job (S/O) so they can make some hours, but they actually don't fly alot. they aren't allowed to fly below a certain altitude and stuff like that. (pretty boring if you ask me) i know this for sure cos i was almost one of them Roll Eyes

this is perhaps the reason why you saw three pilots during your long haul flight. but i don't know if they use this kind of crews with the 777. of course it also depends on the airline.

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Reply #4 - Feb 13^th, 2003 at 12:58am

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I believe thats KLM 's policy on all jumbo jets, but I still have no idea, and nobody at work can see any rhyme or reason to why the 3rd person was in the cockpit. The 777 really could be flown with one person, but is advertised as a 2 man crew.

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Reply #5 - Feb 13^th, 2003 at 5:22am

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i am guessing he needed to put in some overtime and thats all they had:)

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Reply #6 - Feb 13^th, 2003 at 10:56am

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Not likely. They dont want to pay anything they dont have to. . . . penny pinchers. . .

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Reply #7 - Feb 16^th, 2003 at 6:59pm

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Thanks for the info, i didn't know that. i learned somthing today. Grin

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Reply #8 - Feb 18^th, 2003 at 12:52am

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We learn somethign new everyday Tongue

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Reply #9 - Feb 25^th, 2003 at 5:02pm

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there is something that sort of might be a reason. maybe because they had the guy in there filming they thought it would be an idea for security to have an extra guy in there incase something were to happen

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