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Oct 3rd, 2002 at 4:55pm

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Has anyone here build his owne plane?? ???
I really like to do it but I think there's a lot of work... Roll Eyes
Anyway, I'm making plans for a small plane, 3m max. wich would take off really fast and with not much room... Roll Eyes
Just want your ideas... Smiley
(anything is possible, allready tought of a Harrier configuration with model-jet-engines Grin Grin Grin)
 

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Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2002 at 9:53pm

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This is a question for the aircraft design section of the forum but yes you can design your own planes.
 

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Reply #2 - Oct 4th, 2002 at 11:21am

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no no I mean a REAL plane... Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #3 - Oct 31st, 2002 at 7:34am

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Hunter, I'm looking at this at the moment, as I've just discovered the Marcel Jurca MJ100, which is a full-sized Spitfire replica. And I can't afford the million or so pounds it costs to buy an original. I don't know anyone who is doing a build, but there are some people who have web pages on the builds they are doing.
I've got to get some books on this and see if my woodwork skills are up to the job.......
Anyone fancy helping? You know, recommend a good psychiatrist or something.....

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Reply #4 - Oct 31st, 2002 at 12:38pm

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It's something i too have been interested infor several years. I know 2 people who have built their own & follow keenly the various TV series about homebuilts.

One thing I can tell you - if you are thinking of building to your own design - it may be better to start with a kit. I think you'd save yourself a lot of headaches by getting the experience of this. Even a kit will usually take a few 100 hours of meticulous work (right up my street..)

You alos need a reasonable workshop - big enough to store the aircraft & have work surfaces - a mere dream for me at the moment ... I don't even have enough room to start work on a 1929 car I bought 5 years ago which is sadly lying disassembled in an unused stable ...  Undecided
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Reply #5 - Nov 1st, 2002 at 5:28am

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Well Pete I too am in the space situation. We're living in a flat at the moment, as the people building our house have gone bankrupt, but one thing I did do when we designed the house was organise a huge basement/garage for this purpose. And with the Marcel Jurca plans they are literally templates you lay out on the wood and cut. So cheaper than a kit, and not as difficult as a full-on scratch build. I'll let you know whats happening.
Just got to convince the missus that we really NEED this aircraft, and its not just me fulfilling a pre-pubescent male fantasy....... Hmm tricky. Any ideas???

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Reply #6 - Nov 1st, 2002 at 5:38am

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be a man let her know whos boss and say you want that aircraft no matter what:) and of coarse if that doesnt work i'm sure a nice dinner and gift could also work.
Smiley but then again who would turn down the opportunity to own an aircraft
 
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Reply #7 - Nov 1st, 2002 at 11:43am

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I've tried that. She's just not into flying. She tolerates my hobby but nowt more.
And if you've ever seen Monica Seles (she's of Hungarian origin) doing a forehand lob, thats my missus (she's Hungarian) wielding a frying pan. Hungarian chicks are beautiful and intelligent, but dangerous.
I'll just keep dropping subtle hints once the house is finished......

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Reply #8 - Nov 3rd, 2002 at 6:23am

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well better to be safe than sorry:)
good luck with the convincing
 
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Reply #9 - Dec 23rd, 2002 at 9:37pm

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my neibor is building an rv6a he has been working on it fo 6 years now but looks realy good    www.vansaircraft.com
 
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Reply #10 - Dec 24th, 2002 at 12:43pm

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i can't even imagine building my own plane

car yes. . . plane, i think not Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #11 - Dec 24th, 2002 at 5:45pm

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my neibor is building an rv6a he has been working on it fo 6 years now but looks realy good    www.vansaircraft.com


Hi Chopper...!
Best of luck to your neighbour....
That just illustrates how long it takes to build an aeroplane, and that's from a supplied kit of certified parts which just need assembling... Shocked....!

...think. six years out of your life... Roll Eyes....!
Re-building my Riley Brooklands Replica car took me nine months of solid work, and very near killed me with fatigue in the end...!!!

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P.S. ...the Vans RV6 is a SERIOUS aeroplane.... Grin....!
 

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Reply #12 - Dec 24th, 2002 at 11:04pm

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thank it dose take a long time and it seams even longer cuz u dont get any where any time fast my dad and i are thinking of building the rv10 when it is put out in kit form it will be a thrill to put tugater and think of it this way u get a plane that seats 4 people goes over 200 knts with one engin u do your own micanics to it and only cost about 40,000$ u will bee luckey to find a beat up old 172 for that kind of $
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 6th, 2003 at 12:10am

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I have to warn you on some things.

1. Building a kit plane can be a very teidious task, not to mention spendy.

2. F.A.A. requires all aircraft be inspected, and checked before flight. Dont expect them to show up overnight.

3. Most people start a project, and then quit after they realize how long it takes to build the plane, and drop it.

4. F.A.A. requirements must be met, and they change from time to time, often without warning - that is that $35,000 King radio stack that you bought is worthless, especially because a lot of shops wont accept radios being returned  

5. Get to know someone who has built that exact plane before - sometimes even the most seaminly simple instructions can seem incredibaly complex. It always helps to have someone who can answer questions.
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Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2003 at 9:24pm

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I've built flying models, does that count?
 

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Reply #15 - Jan 14th, 2003 at 12:22pm

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lol, sure, why not
 

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Reply #16 - Feb 6th, 2003 at 1:14am

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I am also wanting to buidl my own aircraft but I have to pick between 3 aircraft types.

1. aerobatic
2. cross country
3.  speed
Now you see what I have to choose if I could I would have all 3 in one aircraft what kit plane will let me have aerobatic touring and be able to fly at 200kts? and under $50,000 to build?
 
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Reply #17 - Feb 6th, 2003 at 9:48pm

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Hmmmmm. . .  I will ask around about that, nothing came to mind.
 

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Reply #18 - Feb 7th, 2003 at 4:57am

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Hmmm, don't know about price but in Europe the Europa kitplane is v.popular, its made in the UK. It fills your requirements, saw it on a program called Plane Crazy on Discovery the other day. V.nice little toy, 2 seater. Portable etc.

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Reply #19 - Feb 7th, 2003 at 6:16am

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I will check out the Vans RV-8 at sun n fun this year and other kit aircraft if I can I will get a portable storage for my back yard closed in on both sides
 
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Reply #20 - Mar 17th, 2003 at 10:05pm

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i am building a wittman w10 tailwind (1500hrs since start and another 1500 hrs left to finish). it's a high wing cross country aircraft designed by steve wittman (he was a air racer) in 1953.  it has a 23 foot wingspan, 19.5 foot long from tip of spinner to tail. will cruise at 170-190 mph depending on engine.  stall speed with flaps 55mph without 65mph.  empty weight should around 850-900 pounds.  gross weight 1425 pounds.  engines can be 85-160 hp.  i will be use a lycoming o-320 which will produce 160hp, which should get me in the upper range of the cruise speed.

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F.A.A. requirements must be met, and they change from time to time, often without warning - that is that $35,000 King radio stack that you bought is worthless, especially because a lot of shops wont accept radios being returned   


  yes the faa paper can take along time to do.  you usaully start the paper work about six to eight months before you are ready to fly.  the quote above isn't hardly true at all with homebuilt aircraft.  the faa doesn't care if you don't have certified avionics, prop, or engine or not.  in fact most homebuilts don't have certified avionics or props.  usaully the engine is the onlly major component that is certified.  but since the engine is in a homebuilt, the owner doesn't have to comply with the ad's on that engine.  it is still a good it idea to comply with them.

keeping a log of what you did during the building process is one thing that the faa looks for.  this could be a website or a photo ablum with dates and a descprition of whats in the pics.  also they will want some proof that you built at least 51% of the plane, so make sure that in some of the pics that you look like you are working on it.  thats about all they will want to see for proof. 

the builder of the plane can also get a repairmans certificate that will allow him to do the annual without an a and p.  all that the faa will want for this is that you build at least 51% and can proof to them that you have the knowledge (after building it you have more than enough knowledge). 

anybody that wants to get into the world of homebuilts should became a member of the eaa and find a local eaa chapter to join.  the eaa has technical counselors that will do a inspection before you inclose a wing or fuselage and this will help prove to the faa that the plane is airworthy.  there is lots of helpfull information to found in these chapters.   

building your own plane takes time but is very rewarding.  before you decided on a design you like you have to think about what skills it will require, what your piloting skills are, and do you have a wife that will leave you because you are spending more time with plane than her.

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I am also wanting to buidl my own aircraft but I have to pick between 3 aircraft types.

1. aerobatic 
2. cross country 
3.  speed 
Now you see what I have to choose if I could I would have all 3 in one aircraft what kit plane will let me have aerobatic touring and be able to fly at 200kts? and under $50,000 to build?


you want a plane that can do some aerobatics and fly at 200 for crosscounty?  i think that you should checkout vans rv series.  they will do what you want for under 50k (can cost more depending on if you want full ifr panel). 

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Reply #21 - May 9th, 2003 at 2:42pm

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As the governing aviation authority in the U.S., the FAA is still very much involved with homebuilt aircraft.

Even for Homebuilts, there are FAA procedures that must be followed to receive the Airworthiness certificate for an "Experimental" aircraft; also to receive the Repairman's cert; only ultralights are exempt from having to be certified and registered (I believe they have to weigh under 254 lbs. empty). Even with the repairman's certificate, you can't make any major modifications to the airframe or powerplant without notifying the FAA.

Also, dont' forget, to fly your Experimental aircraft you have to be (or are supposed to be!) a licensed pilot with a current medical certificate. Then of course, as with any aircraft or ultralight, you have to operate it in accordance with FAR's!
 
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