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May 18^th, 2002 at 7:47am

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New forum - just to start it off.......

I'm installing Opera as I type .... we'll see if you guys have another convert 8)

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Reply #1 - May 18^th, 2002 at 12:45pm

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Hey Pete, I like the idea for the new forum, I was wonderinf when you would this up.

I heard of Opera but I don't know much about it. How is it better/worse then IE 6.x

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Reply #2 - May 19^th, 2002 at 4:22am

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IE is about a 3 out of 10. Opera is about an 8 out of 10. It's not perfect, but i haven't found a browser anywhere near as good!

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Reply #3 - May 19^th, 2002 at 5:53am

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Opera works fine for me but there are disadvantages. I find browsing this site & forum in particular much slower on Opera compared with IE6. This might be due to my 56k modem connection although I don't seem to have the problem with other sites. Opera has many advanced search functions (including Google) but I do miss my Google Toolbar. As Bonzie found out, Opera does not seem to like FS2002 or FSDS (maybe both). I tried to check something out quickly while online yesterday & the PC locked solid. I can't remember this ever happening with IE6 & I had to reboot to fix it. One advantage is that you can restart Opera from where you left it.

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Reply #4 - May 19^th, 2002 at 9:12pm

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Anybody using a 56k should be shot (jk). however I don't like playing net games with 56k.. I personally use cable and is worth the extra 10-15$ a month. And as for opera, until I hear more good things about it, I'm not sure if I want to mess with what I find works fine for me(IE6).

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Reply #5 - May 19^th, 2002 at 10:18pm

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Hey Chunky, remeber that some of us out in the boonies can't get anything better than dial-up, whether we like it or not... Wink

As for Opera, I too say if it ain't broken don't fix it. I've looked at it a couple times but thought as long as IE still works why bother changing...

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Reply #6 - May 20^th, 2002 at 4:07am

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You know there is a term "don't go back to a firework when it's been lit" now that doesn't apply what so ever here, but Opera is better than IE.

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Reply #7 - May 21^st, 2002 at 1:25am

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There is also the old Chinese proverb, "Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet." Which has even less to do with anything here... Wink

I guess I might as well give Opera a try... What harm can it do?

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Reply #8 - May 21^st, 2002 at 4:44am

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Yeah, well I've left it aside, I'm afraid.

Opera seems much slower than IE - i really hate to have to say. I was getting time outs with Opera - not with IE6.
I have cached a lot of pages just to make sure that wasn't the problem.
I used to use Netscape too until they built in an 'update' feature that burst onto your page at random & halted surfing. *FLUSH*

What exactly do people find so great about opera?

All I use IE for is viewing web pages - & bookmarking. Nothing else & I have no complaints about it. Outlook Express is another story entirely - it leaves a lot to be desired -.... But IE6 - it does the job for me & seemingly better than Opera.

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Reply #9 - May 22^nd, 2002 at 12:01pm

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Anybody using a 56k should be shot (jk). however I don't like playing net games with 56k.. I personally use cable and is worth the extra 10-15$ a month. And as for opera, until I hear more good things about it, I'm not sure if I want to mess with what I find works fine for me(IE6).

not wanting to cause an argument but they havnt laid a cable to where i live!!!!!!!1 Wink

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Reply #10 - May 22^nd, 2002 at 8:27pm

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I guess I forgot to think that cable and DSL is not available is alot of places. Luckily I can get it, but fo those of who who don't have the option, if Cable or DSL ever comes around, get it!

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Reply #11 - May 23^rd, 2002 at 4:05am

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What exactly do people find so great about opera?

You mean apart from the increased security, better downloading, faster connections (don't know why you were getting time outs, sure it wasn't the time of the day, or your settings) far superior user interface, completely customisable and the fact it isn't built by MS!

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Reply #12 - May 23^rd, 2002 at 11:54am

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mm.... well maybe I should give it more time but ..

I rarely use my browser for downloading - 99% is this site stuff which I use FTP for.

Security is really an issue for me in ways other than a browser.

My connectiuon is governed mostly by my ISP & the current network traffic/conditions.

Superior Interface - OK maybe... ?

Not made by M$.... I'm always eager to support non-M$ stuff - naturally. We need monopoly/dominant businesses like a hole in the head - so I agree about that.

Customisable - Yes - I certainly like that Grin

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Reply #13 - May 24^th, 2002 at 5:00am

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Give it about a month, and when you have got use to the mouse movement recognition you will love it. With just a swish of the mouse you can go back, forward bring up a new page. It's really usefull, seems like a bit of a gimmic to start with (also a bit hard to use) but once you have got used to it you will find you rarely ever use the back and forward buttons. Unless you go back to IE, then your trying to do all the fancy movement and all it comes up with is "do you wish to save this page?" "Grrrr nooo"

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Reply #14 - May 24^th, 2002 at 9:11am

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so where can i get it?
and how much does it cost

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Reply #15 - May 25^th, 2002 at 4:23am

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www.opera.com

It's free (with adverts) and about $30 for non adverts.

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Reply #16 - May 25^th, 2002 at 12:40pm

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i might download the adverts one as dad wont pay for the nonadverts Cheesy

. the download options just confused me though Embarrassed

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Reply #17 - May 27^th, 2002 at 5:33am

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What confused you?

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Reply #18 - May 27^th, 2002 at 11:57am

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the Java/non Java bit (what does Java meen?) and download location

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It's free (with adverts) and about $30 for non adverts

and dont $ me, Angry

i dont know the exchange rate Wink

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Reply #19 - May 27^th, 2002 at 4:42pm

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Ok sorry for the $, but it's foriegn currency to me aswell. I take it from your picture (rex the runt right?) your english. So let me just advise you it's about £20 ish.

You want to download the Java version. Java is the (now begining to be outdated) interenet programming language. So you need it.

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Reply #20 - May 27^th, 2002 at 5:44pm

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Ok sorry for the $, but it's foriegn currency to me aswell. I take it from your picture (rex the runt right?) your english. So let me just advise you it's about £20 ish.

paul

that ok, i'll download it some time in the week. AOL is really beginning to piss me off, half the time it dosnt work!!!!

and yes its is rex the runt. (its vince in the picture and he's drinking soya sauce) Grin

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Reply #21 - May 30^th, 2002 at 5:31pm

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right youve convinced me, im downloading it now Grin

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Reply #22 - Jun 28^th, 2002 at 9:59am

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The free version works good enough. Just a tiny ad at the top right

Opera is muh faster than IE most times, but it is much slower than IE when looking at screenshots.

The best part of Opera are the tab interface and mouse gestures. If IE had these features, I probably won't be using Opera right now.

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Reply #23 - Jun 29^th, 2002 at 1:00am

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I use OPERA as my default browser and Id recommend it to anybody, Ive just sent my old computer to my brother in dublin and ive installed opera as his default browser, its free, type in opera6.0 into a search engine and away you go.theres a handy gadget in it,which means you dont have to use the keyboard to log into sites.andy

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Reply #24 - Jun 29^th, 2002 at 6:41pm

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well all the details you need to have opera are here on this topic Grin

i am happily running opera with no complaints at all Cheesy

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Reply #25 - Apr 4^th, 2003 at 12:21pm

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So what is Opera like?

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Reply #26 - Apr 4^th, 2003 at 10:25pm

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and the fact it isn't built by MS!

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Got root ?

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Reply #27 - Jun 14^th, 2003 at 10:00pm

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Just installed the latest version and I think its brill,never liked IE anyway,I,ll stick to Opers from now on.

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Reply #28 - Jun 28^th, 2003 at 5:29pm

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If you do NOTHING but view web pages Off by One advertises itself as the world's fastest browser. I used it for a while as a Google shortcut - it loaded the browser and the web page before IE even started.

The free download is well under 1 Mb.

But be prepared to give up a lot of whistles and bells.

http://www.offbyone.com/

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