Simviation Forum - mock dogfighting?

Oct 27^th, 2012 at 2:52pm

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Anyone up for a little mock dogfighting sometime?
Do not really care what type of planes as long as they are similar. 4th gen fighters, Korean war era, even between Extras. Just some friendly tail-chasing...get your mind out of the gutter, not that kind! Grin

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Reply #1 - Oct 28^th, 2012 at 7:35pm

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Dogfight with extra's? sounds fun, and why not with stock racing mustangs... lot's of power

Sounds like a lot of fun... mabey next time i'll actually be able to finish and not have to glide a raptor all the way to the tarmac Grin

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Reply #2 - Oct 28^th, 2012 at 8:09pm

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SkyHawk00 wrote on Oct 28^th, 2012 at 7:35pm:

Dogfight with extra's? sounds fun, and why not with stock racing mustangs... lot's of power

Sounds like a lot of fun... mabey next time i'll actually be able to finish and not have to glide a raptor all the way to the tarmac Grin

I will be using FS9 though so the racing mustang might be an issue. Roll Eyes

But why not try even Extras? Heck I would even try Mooneys....but our last sim session together should show my affinity for the Mooney Bravo Wink

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Reply #3 - Oct 29^th, 2012 at 10:55am

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Yes, doing stunts in it that would push an extra Grin

Course a real challenge would be to do it in a 747 Grin

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Reply #4 - Oct 29^th, 2012 at 12:34pm

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I think sessions like this only really work successfully when everyone is using the same Flight Sim*, and exactly the same models of aircraft in their Hangar.
That's why default aircraft are designed to work best in Multiplayer, 'cos everyone has them in their Hangar, and they all appear correctly!
Its the way Uncle Bill intended!... Grin

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Paul...FS 2004, and a hangar full of default stuff... Wink

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* Otherwise; physical location. and scenery mesh problems.

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Reply #5 - Oct 30^th, 2012 at 10:40am

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Fozzer wrote on Oct 29^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

I think sessions like this only really work successfully when everyone is using the same Flight Sim*, and exactly the same models of aircraft in their Hangar.
That's why default aircraft are designed to work best in Multiplayer, 'cos everyone has them in their Hangar, and they all appear correctly!
Its the way Uncle Bill intended!... Grin

...!

Paul...FS 2004, and a hangar full of default stuff... Wink

...!

* Otherwise; physical location. and scenery mesh problems.

ah I remember I think it was Jetprop being totally unable to see my poor B-24 due to him using FSX and us using FS9...this might be an issue.

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Reply #6 - Oct 30^th, 2012 at 1:38pm

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wahubna wrote on Oct 30^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

Fozzer wrote on Oct 29^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

I think sessions like this only really work successfully when everyone is using the same Flight Sim*, and exactly the same models of aircraft in their Hangar.
That's why default aircraft are designed to work best in Multiplayer, 'cos everyone has them in their Hangar, and they all appear correctly!
Its the way Uncle Bill intended!... Grin

...!

Paul...FS 2004, and a hangar full of default stuff... Wink

...!

* Otherwise; physical location. and scenery mesh problems.

ah I remember I think it was Jetprop being totally unable to see my poor B-24 due to him using FSX and us using FS9...this might be an issue.

It could just be my acer....or both.

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Reply #7 - Oct 30^th, 2012 at 1:57pm

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It is a fact, ever since we first used Multiplayer, many Moons ago, on our various Flight Sims, unless everyone was/is using default Aircraft, they rarely appear as the correct types to all the pilots.
If a non-default aircraft is preferred, then EVERYONE must have exactly the same aircraft in their hangars, for it to appear correctly to each and every pilot!

It might be boring, but the system always works best when everyone is using default aircraft in Multiplayer.
(Typical example; the old faithful, default Beech Baron 58...everyone sees that!).
Most of the new Flyers tend to pick downloaded aircraft which are not in other pilot's hangars.....so they don't appear correctly to any other pilots in the session!

Multiplayer is very fussy about the model and type of aircraft used!

Paul...FS 2004.....and a very pretty, default Baron 58!... Grin

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Reply #8 - Oct 30^th, 2012 at 3:23pm

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But a workaround is if one player has a '-22 of say, viratvia, and another has one of alphasim.
You can change the displayed aircraft to the one that they have, it's not a perfect representation, but it's close

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Reply #9 - Oct 30^th, 2012 at 3:41pm

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jetprop wrote on Oct 30^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

wahubna wrote on Oct 30^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

Fozzer wrote on Oct 29^th, 2012 at 12:34pm:

I think sessions like this only really work successfully when everyone is using the same Flight Sim*, and exactly the same models of aircraft in their Hangar.
That's why default aircraft are designed to work best in Multiplayer, 'cos everyone has them in their Hangar, and they all appear correctly!
Its the way Uncle Bill intended!... Grin

...!

Paul...FS 2004, and a hangar full of default stuff... Wink

...!

* Otherwise; physical location. and scenery mesh problems.

ah I remember I think it was Jetprop being totally unable to see my poor B-24 due to him using FSX and us using FS9...this might be an issue.

It could just be my acer....or both.

Im betting the Acer has a lot to do with it Grin

I HATED my Acer. I literally celebrated when it died.

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Reply #10 - Nov 13^th, 2012 at 2:34pm

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How about we find an airfield that's the same for all sims involved, get a group together and determine a basic set of planes, an F-86, F-16, F-22, F-35 etc... not an exact plane file, just a version of that plane. Find a date for it and do it in 1 v 1 duels or teams, everyone involved calls out their plane and everyone changes their displayed plane to that. if you're not fighting change to a Cessna and turn off your engine.

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Reply #11 - Nov 13^th, 2012 at 6:23pm

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SkyHawk00 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

How about we find an airfield that's the same for all sims involved, get a group together and determine a basic set of planes, an F-86, F-16, F-22, F-35 etc... not an exact plane file, just a version of that plane. Find a date for it and do it in 1 v 1 duels or teams, everyone involved calls out their plane and everyone changes their displayed plane to that. if you're not fighting change to a Cessna and turn off your engine.

A perfect arrangement!... Wink

...!

...plus; same season/date, same time of day, and same default weather option and wind strength and direction.

= level playing field!... Wink

..!

Paul.

In FS 2004 we switch to the; "Paper Airplane"...>>> http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=Paper+airplane&categoryId=
...for visitors, and non participants on the ground (a low poly-count object which eases the frame rates!).

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Reply #12 - Nov 14^th, 2012 at 1:23pm

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Fozzer wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

SkyHawk00 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

How about we find an airfield that's the same for all sims involved, get a group together and determine a basic set of planes, an F-86, F-16, F-22, F-35 etc... not an exact plane file, just a version of that plane. Find a date for it and do it in 1 v 1 duels or teams, everyone involved calls out their plane and everyone changes their displayed plane to that. if you're not fighting change to a Cessna and turn off your engine.

A perfect arrangement!... Wink

...!

...plus; same season/date, same time of day, and same default weather option and wind strength and direction.

= level playing field!... Wink

..!

Paul.

In FS 2004 we switch to the; "Paper Airplane"...>>> http://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=Paper+airplane&categoryId=
...for visitors, and non participants on the ground (a low poly-count object which eases the frame rates!).

Sounds good Smiley

Know of any airfields the same from FSX and FS2004? preferably somewhere somewhere along the coast

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