Webb wrote on Sep 16^th, 2012 at 11:04pm:


Nope nothing wrong with our educational system. We just don't care much for propaganda movies...

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If the Dutch had seen this Anne Frank might have survived.

If you haven’t seen these there is something wrong with your education system.

The World at War

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I try to steer clear of American propaganda. I find some Axis ones are more truthful.

Webb wrote on Sep 28^th, 2012 at 12:37am:


How?

Webb wrote on Sep 28^th, 2012 at 12:59am:


I don't know where you find your history but the Netherlands did put up a fight before capitulating & forming a Government in exile.

the Battle of the Netherlands

The main problem was that the Dutch Army was Ill-Equipped & Ill-Trained.

Also those films weren't produced until 1942 & the Invasion of the Low Countries was in 1940.

Webb, I suggest you go back to school, take some history lessons instead of watching US propaganda movies. We did put up a fight against the Nazi invasion. Problem was that the Dutch Army was indeed badly equipped and trained. Because of the fact that we stayed neutral in WWI, we still had a fighting force on the level of before WWI. Although they fought bravely and hard for 5 days, they couldn't begin a thing against the overwhelming German troops. Outnumbered 10 to 1 even the US Army would have given up.

During the war, there was a huge resistance movement against the Nazis. Bombings, sabotage and killings were a daily business for them. Although there also were a lot of people supporting the Germans. They all got their share after the war. Even now, people don't want to confess that their (grand)parents were in support of the Nazis.

Anne Frank. It's unfortunate that she died. Remember that during the war no one knew who Anne Frank was. She only got famous after the publishing of her dairy. In the 1950's....

So before you start talking nonsense again, go take some lessons in history, instead of believing everything in movies...

I still have to agree that the public education system in the US is a wee bit broken. I graduated from a public highschool in '08 after moving about a couple of times all the while attending PUBLIC schools. I can say all are screwed up: both the well funded ones and the lets just say 'poor' ones....nevermind how they treat special needs children!
My in-laws had to listen to several school officials tell them that their adopted daughter was not bi-polar....even though police have been involved far to many times.

andy190 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2012 at 2:47am:


In the big scheme of things, the polite, but not extended resistance of the Dutch (brought to an end partly by the obliteration of Rotterdam), and then the subsequent Battle of France and Dunkirk evacuation did us a huge favour.

Had they not ended when they did and with the results they did, we'd have been left fighting a war of attrition in the same place as the Great War, with a probable German victory before any  official US involvement. We'd have eventually been stuffed, and had very little (if anything) left to defend an invasion of the British isles, and the consequent ending of any meaningful military resistance in Europe to the Third Reich.

Strategic Retreat wrote on Oct 1^st, 2012 at 6:25am:


I didn't say it would have been a two way war of attrition. We (the allies) would have been, bombed, panzered and overrun by the end of 1940 at the latest. We'd have lost. Comprehensively.