Search the archive:
Simviation Main Site
|
Site Search
|
Upload Images
Simviation Forum
›
Combat Flight Simulators
›
Combat Flight Simulator 2
› Question For Hagar.
(Moderators: Mitch., Fly2e, ozzy72, beaky, Clipper, JBaymore, Bob70, BigTruck)
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
Pages:
1
Question For Hagar. (Read 7207 times)
Apr 28
th
, 2012 at 11:56pm
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
I've downloaded the Seafire MkIII British Pacific Fleet from Flightsim.com. The file is sfcfs2.zip. I've also downloaded the spitfire weapons pak, spitwep.zip and I cannot get the slipper tank to show up. I've double and quadruple checked that all the required files are in the right folders. The funny thing is, the SAAF spitfire, I believe by the same author, also will not show the slipper tank. File is spitpak1.zip. I've looked at the damage profile files and cannot see anything wrong with them. I'm stumped and going bald from tearing my hair out. Could you take a look at it and see if you can find anything? If necessary I can e-mail the files to you.
Thanks,
Investdude
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #1 -
Apr 29
th
, 2012 at 4:31am
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
investdude wrote
on Apr 28
th
, 2012 at 11:56pm:
I've also downloaded the
spitfire weapons pak, spitwep.zip
and I cannot get the slipper tank to show up. I've double and quadruple checked that all the required files are in the right folders. The funny thing is, the SAAF spitfire, I believe by the same author, also will not show the slipper tank. File is spitpak1.zip. I've looked at the damage profile files and cannot see anything wrong with them. I'm stumped and going bald from tearing my hair out. Could you take a look at it and see if you can find anything? If necessary I can e-mail the files to you.
Thanks,
Investdude
I suspect that this is the Spitfire weapons package by Martin Wright.
http://www.mwgfx.co.uk/cfs2/spitpak.htm
I haven't used CFS2 for a very long time. Martin's instructions are usually very clear, concise DP tutes in their own right. I'll check it out later.
Update. I tried the Seafire & SAAF Spitfire packages you mention. The tank works fine on both straight "out of the box".
I can't understand why you're having problems. Did you use the auto-installer to install the Seafire?
«
Last Edit: Apr 29
th
, 2012 at 6:29am by Hagar
»
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #2 -
Apr 29
th
, 2012 at 11:53am
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Thanks for doing this Hagar. Yes, I had to use the auto-installer into CFS2 because it won't let you install to any place other than CFS2. Like you, I don't trust auto-installers and try to avoid them as much as possible.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #3 -
Apr 29
th
, 2012 at 12:10pm
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
OK, I tried again. I installed the SAAF Spitfire from spitpak1.zip which does not have an auto-installer and can be installed manually. Then I installed the files from spitwep.zip into the objects_dp and scenedb folders (although they were already there). But no change. The slipper tank just won't appear.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #4 -
Apr 29
th
, 2012 at 12:19pm
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
Do the other payloads display? There are only two loadouts with the tank, Guns Only Long Range & Bombs Medium Long Range.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #5 -
Apr 29
th
, 2012 at 6:14pm
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Yes, all the payloads display perfectly except that the slipper tank will not show with the Guns Only Long Range & Bombs Medium Long Range.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #6 -
Apr 29
th
, 2012 at 6:35pm
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
Hmmm. Very odd. I can't figure this one out at all. Sorry.
As I said earlier, it's been a long time. If I think of anything I'll let you know.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #7 -
Apr 30
th
, 2012 at 12:15am
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Thanks Hagar. I sure can't figure it out. All the files are present in the correct folders. Even the mdlnames.txt file is correct. And the DPs must be correct if they work for you.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #8 -
Apr 30
th
, 2012 at 10:24am
Bass
Offline
Colonel
Love flying.
Scandinavia
Gender:
Posts: 996
And you are sure y've added these models names
"spit_bomb_250lb"=General Purpose Bomb - 250lb
"spit_bomb_500lb"=General Purpose Bomb - 500lb
"spit_m10_rocket"=M10 Triple 4.5" Rocket Tubes
"spit_rocket"=Ground Attack Rocket
"spit_smokefloat"=Smoke Float - 250lb
"spit_triplex"=Triplex 7.2" Rocket
"spit_slipper_tank"=Slipper Droptank - 45 gal
and this
Installing Spitfire Pack 1
10
media\spit1.bmp
media\spit2.bmp
media\prop.wav
;
;
;
;
AC
3
Weapon Library
objlib
Scenedb\weapons\scenery
0
Weapon Textures
objtex
Scenedb\weapons\texture
0
Weapon DP Files
objdp
objects_dp
0
spitVis.bak
*Spitfire Pack 1*CFS2 Version**By Cryingtoto/MW**(c)2000
0
0
0
1
mdlnamesadd.txt
mdlnames.txt
1
Aircraft\F6F3_HELLCAT\panel\panel_background_1024.bmp
Aircraft\Spit-IX SAAF\panel\panel_background_1024.bmp
"Just try to be YOU".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw23LQkvg_k
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #9 -
Apr 30
th
, 2012 at 3:45pm
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Thanks for your reply Bass. Yes, all these models names have been added to the mdlnames.txt file...
"spit_bomb_250lb"=General Purpose Bomb - 250lb
"spit_bomb_500lb"=General Purpose Bomb - 500lb
"spit_m10_rocket"=M10 Triple 4.5" Rocket Tubes
"spit_rocket"=Ground Attack Rocket
"spit_smokefloat"=Smoke Float - 250lb
"spit_triplex"=Triplex 7.2" Rocket
"spit_slipper_tank"=Slipper Droptank - 45 gal
and they all work except the last one, spit_slipper_tank.
These files:
Installing Spitfire Pack 1
10
media\spit1.bmp
media\spit2.bmp
media\prop.wav
don't have anything to do with the weapons so there's nowhere to install them to.
All these files have been installed correctly:
AC
3
Weapon Library
objlib
Scenedb\weapons\scenery
0
Weapon Textures
objtex
Scenedb\weapons\texture
0
Weapon DP Files
objdp
objects_dp
0
Don't know what this is about: spitVis.bak
*Spitfire Pack 1*CFS2 Version**By Cryingtoto/MW**(c)2000
0
0
0
1
The weapons pack I have installed is from Martin Wright: Spitpak1.zip
As indicated above the model names have been added to the mdlnames.txt file:
mdlnamesadd.txt
mdlnames.txt
These files have to do with the panel, nothing to do with the DP:
Aircraft\F6F3_HELLCAT\panel\panel_background_1024.bmp
Aircraft\Spit-IX SAAF\panel\panel_background_1024.bmp
So am still stumped as to why everything works except the slipper tank.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #10 -
Apr 30
th
, 2012 at 6:27pm
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
Note: You only need to add those entries to mdlnames.txt if you wish to use the weapons in the Mission Builder. I didn't do so & the tank and all other weapons in the package work perfectly as shown in my shots which were taken in Free Flight.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #11 -
May 1
st
, 2012 at 7:37am
Bass
Offline
Colonel
Love flying.
Scandinavia
Gender:
Posts: 996
Read this, and be aware of the air file on other ac
----
SpitPak Additional Weapons
This package contains a library of additional weapons designed
particularly to fit the SAAF Spitfire.
These weapons may be utilised in Payloads for other Aircraft
by appropriate editing of the DP file of a Default or MdlPatchW
patched Aircraft. Some of the objects have been designed so that
a Hardpoint location of 0,0,0 will place the object in the
correct location on the Spitfire Model. These are marked ** in
the descriptions below. To mount these on a different aircraft
a suitable Hardpoint location will need to be created.
Some Mounts are "Handed" - Different objects for Left and Right
wing mounting. This is because they are angled to match the
wing Dihedral for better appearance. These may not perfectly
match the Wing angle on other aircraft but should still work
better than the "straight down" alternative.
The Weapons :-
spit_slipper_tank **
A 45 gallon streamlined underbelly Droptank.
Note that a suitable Air file that includes correct settings
for Auxiliary fuel tanks will be required for this to function
correctly regarding Fuel capacity, weight and "dropability"
with other Aircraft
raf_pilot **
This is the pilot shown in the Spitfire Cockpit. Note that if
you add or edit the Spitfire Payloads you will need to have
the raf_pilot entry in each Payload for the pilot to be visible
when that payload is selected
spit_mount_std_L
spit_mount_std_R
The Left and Right standard mounts for the carrying of bombs
or Smoke Floats
spit_bomb_mount **
A central bomb mount on the centreline just behind the Air
intake
spit_rocket_mount
A tall, thin mount for mounting Rockets in a piggyback arrangement.
spit_m10_tubes_L
spit_m10_tubes_R
The Left and Right 3-Tube M10 "Bazooka" Rocket Launchers. These
should be used in conjunction with a spit_m10_rocket Mounted
as described below
spit_m10_rocket
This is the "Firing" part of the M10 setup. It should be placed
so that it is hidden by the 3-Tube launcher and the Payload entry
should be in the form :-
[PAYLOAD.4]
mount.0=raf_pilot, 1, -1
mount.8=spit_m10_tubes_L, 1, -1
mount.6=spit_m10_rocket, 3, 7
mount.9=spit_m10_tubes_R, 1, -1
mount.7=spit_m10_rocket, 3, -1
with a "3" as the second parameter. This is the Ammo-Level and will
allow 3 rockets to be fired from each 3-Tube mount.
These fire very quickly but using the keyboard Ordnance key allows
enough control to fire singly if required.
spit_rocket
An Alternative to the normal US 5" Rockets
spit_triplex
Triplex Rocket - these were made by putting 3 rocket motors from
the 3" rocket into a single rocket then using a 7.2" Howitzer shell
as the warhead
spit_bomb_250lb
spit_bomb_500lb
Alternative Bombs
spit_smokefloat
Visually a 250lb Canister that was used to drop smoke on water.
For the moment this will act the same as a 250lb Bomb
---
"Just try to be YOU".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw23LQkvg_k
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #12 -
May 1
st
, 2012 at 1:38pm
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
Bass wrote
on May 1
st
, 2012 at 7:37am:
Read this, and be aware of the air file on other ac
----
SpitPak Additional Weapons
bass. I know you're trying to help but that's copied direct from the instructions with the SpitPak weapons package. This was specifically created by Martin Wright for the Seafire III & SAAF Spitfire by Cryingtoto that investdude is having problems with. The DP & AIR files have already been configured for the slipper tank. I've checked this out in AirEd & also proved it in CFS2 itself. See the screenshots in my earlier reply. As I said earlier, mdlnames.txt does not need editing for the weapons or tank to display.
The only possible reason I can think of for the tank not displaying on either aircraft is that the AIR files have been modified/replaced after installing the packages or the wrong aircraft are being selected in CFS2.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #13 -
May 1
st
, 2012 at 2:57pm
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Hagar,
The air files for both aircraft, the SAAF Spitfire and the FAA Seafire are exactly as installed by the auto-installer. If the wrong aircraft was being selected I don't think the other weapons in the DP wouldn't show either. I think there must be something wrong with my CFS2 installation. I'm going to do a fresh install of CFS2 and see what happens. I'll report back.
Investdude
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #14 -
May 1
st
, 2012 at 6:42pm
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
If memory serves me right adding the Aux fuel tank entry to the AIR file will only affect whether you can drop the tank. It should still display without it.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #15 -
May 1
st
, 2012 at 7:36pm
Polar_Lion
Offline
Colonel
Du Doch Nicht!!!- Ernst
Udet
Maine, USA
Gender:
Posts: 152
what are the DP entries?
try deleting the filelist.dat file in the SCENEDB/weapons/scenery folder. don't worry CFS2 will make a new one.
not sure what else to do. i'll add the plane and see what i get.
ok after installing the Spitfire MKIII i had no issues.
but if you installed the SAAF Spitfire then you will need the file Spitup.zip from MW's site.
check that and it should be good to go.
verify that you have these DP entries as shown,
[PAYLOAD.1]
; Payload = Guns Only Long Range
mount.1=spit_slipper_tank, 1, -1
thats all i've got.
"Courage is the discovery that you may not win, and trying when you know you can lose."
-Tom Krause
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #16 -
May 2
nd
, 2012 at 1:34am
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Tried deleting the filelist.dat file. Made no difference. Yes, I have
[PAYLOAD.1]
; Payload = Guns Only Long Range
mount.1=spit_slipper_tank, 1, -1
on both SAAF and Seafire DPs. All weapons show up on both except the slipper tank. Since they work for everyone else there has to be something wrong with my CFS2 installation.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #17 -
May 2
nd
, 2012 at 3:02am
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
investdude wrote
on May 2
nd
, 2012 at 1:34am:
Since they work for everyone else there has to be something wrong with my CFS2 installation.
I can't think what that can be unless it's the old "100 plane" limit. You could try a duplicate install of CFS2. Simply rename your existing CFS2 root directory folder to another name & Install in the usual way.
Whatever you do don't use the Uninstall/Install method. Please read my CFS2 FAQ page first.
http://www.simviation.com/lair/cfs2faq.htm
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #18 -
May 2
nd
, 2012 at 10:19am
Bass
Offline
Colonel
Love flying.
Scandinavia
Gender:
Posts: 996
Thats ok, i'll just step back.
But i did have an old xp backup on cfs2. Copied it all into my win7 cfs2 setup, and it is working fine!
"Just try to be YOU".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw23LQkvg_k
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #19 -
May 2
nd
, 2012 at 1:30pm
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Hagar,
It's definitely not the 100 plane limit, I'm way, way below that. I do have 4 different installs of CFS2 and the slipper tank won't work on any of them so there has to be something wrong with it. I am going to try your suggestion of a duplicate install from the discs as soon as I have time. I'll report back.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #20 -
May 3
rd
, 2012 at 3:54am
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
investdude wrote
on May 2
nd
, 2012 at 1:30pm:
I am going to try your suggestion of a duplicate install from the discs as soon as I have time. I'll report back.
It's worth a try. However, if it doesn't display in your existing 4 installs I don't hold out much hope. I must be missing something but I can't think what.
To avoid confusion may I suggest you try just one of the aircraft to start with, either the Seafire or SAAF Spitfire. If that works you can install the other one later.
While I understand your frustration I'm wondering if a drop tank is worth all this bother. Do third party drop tanks display on your other aircraft? For example the Fox Four Sea Fury.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #21 -
May 3
rd
, 2012 at 2:26pm
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Hagar,
Yes, other 3rd party drop tanks install fine, this slipper tank is the only one I have a problem with. Also, the extra installs of CFS2 were not installed from the CDs, they are all copies of my original install, done that way because CFS2 doesn't require a registry entry. I suspect the tank will work with a fresh install from the CDs, I just haven't had time to try it yet, lots of things going on in the real world at the moment. Thanks for your interest and all your help. I'll report the results when I can get to it.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #22 -
May 9
th
, 2012 at 11:57pm
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Hagar,
I did as you suggested, renamed my CFS2 to something else and did a fresh install from the CDs. The slipper tank works! So now I am slowly copying files over from my original install in an attempt to determine at least in what folder the problem lies. I suppose it's not unreasonable that my original install would have some problems because I have had it for 12 years and been constantly adding to it and upgrading in various ways. If I can ever track down exactly what the problem was I will report it for everyone's benefit.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #23 -
May 10
th
, 2012 at 2:16am
investdude
Offline
Colonel
Chilliwack, BC Canada
Gender:
Posts: 60
Success! The problem was in the SCENEDB\WEAPONS\SCENERY Folder. A file called Seafire.bgl was conflicting and causing the slipper tank to not show. I'm not sure what Seafire.bgl relates to, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the Martin Wright Seafire, possibly some other model. Anyway, I deleted it and the slipper tank works fine now.
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #24 -
May 10
th
, 2012 at 10:25am
Hagar
Offline
Colonel
My Spitfire Girl
Costa Geriatrica
Posts: 33159
Glad you finally figured it out.
Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the
Fox Four Group
Need help? Try
Grumpy's Lair
My photo gallery
Back to top
IP Logged
Reply #25 -
May 11
th
, 2012 at 7:40am
Bass
Offline
Colonel
Love flying.
Scandinavia
Gender:
Posts: 996
Now, thats a good job
"Just try to be YOU".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw23LQkvg_k
Back to top
IP Logged
Pages:
1
‹
Previous Topic
|
Next Topic
›
« Home
‹ Board
Top of this page
Forum Jump »
Home
» 10 most recent Posts
» 10 most recent Topics
Current Flight Simulator Series
- Flight Simulator X
- FS 2004 - A Century of Flight
- Adding Aircraft Traffic (AI) & Gates
- Flight School
- Flightgear
- MS Flight
Graphic Gallery
- Simviation Screenshots Showcase
- Screenshot Contest
- Edited Screenshots
- Photos & Cameras
- Payware Screenshot Showcase
- Studio V Screenshot Workshop
- Video
- The Cage
Design Forums
- Aircraft & 3D Design
- Scenery & Panel Design
- Aircraft Repainting
- Designer Feedback
General
- General Discussion
- Humour
- Music, Arts & Entertainment
- Sport
Computer Hardware & Software Forum
- Hardware
- Tweaking & Overclocking
- Computer Games & Software
- HomeBuild Cockpits
Addons Most Wanted
- Aircraft Wanted
- Other Add-ons Wanted
Real World
- Real Aviation
- Specific Aircraft Types
- Autos
- History
On-line Interactive Flying
- Virtual Airlines Events & Messages
- Multiplayer
Simviation Site
- Simviation News & Info
- Suggestions for these forums
- Site Questions & Feedback
- Site Problems & Broken Links
Combat Flight Simulators
- Combat Flight Simulator 3
- Combat Flight Simulator 2 ««
- Combat Flight Simulator
- CFS Development
- IL-2 Sturmovik
Other Websites
- Your Site
- Other Sites
Payware
- Payware
Old Flight Simulator Series
- FS 2002
- FS 2000
- Flight Simulator 98
Simviation Forum
» Powered by
YaBB 2.5 AE
!
YaBB Forum Software
© 2000-2010. All Rights Reserved.