Has a followup to Groundbound1's recent poll, (/yabb?num=1330529692), and in light of accusations that people that do not praise and support Flight just want to hate it, I thought I'd post this just to see once and for all how many people here consider themselves "haters".

This poll will run for seven days. Only members can vote. The results will remain secret until voting closes to avoid "peer pressure" issues.

This is NOT a battleground for a flame war. There are plenty of threads for fighting it out already. Reasonable discussion on the "MS Flight hater phenomenon" is welcome as long as it remains civil.

Please do your best to vote your conscience.  The hope is that a true reading of the temperament of this board can be achieved, and will help open the board to more reasonable discussion by getting us past this "Your just hating!" vs. "No I'm not!" phase.

One can hope anyway.....

flight IS flawless:nice scenery with good fps,... but they threw away everything that was simulator: ATC, the whole world, different lighting in an airplane,.....

i'll stick with fsx, there's more people that have it, and 3rd  party addons and much more and having all that i'd rather stay with the sucky gamespy connection than to have a sucky 'game' with flawless internet connection.

i would have wanted it different but there's nothing we can do about it.

greets 

I've always thought that "Hate" was an over the top word for describing your feelings for a piece of software.

I would imagine "hate" should be reserved for someone who has murdered your family

.....but each to their own.

ArcticFox wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 3:41am:




G.K. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 5:32am:



Allow me to address both of you in one post.
In the context of how I have seen the term used on multiple forums now,  "hater" is the word I have seen most commonly used to describe people negative towards Flight.   
I.E. Someone posts something that they like about flight, the following posts disagree, and rather than a worthwhile debate resulting, the OP (right or wrong) gets the sense that it's just turning into some kind of pile on by people that just want to post for the sake of bashing on the software and/or OP. 
Certainly, in the larger sense, this term can be applied to people from multiple viewpoints, both pro and con, but in this case it's applied specifically to the idea that negative criticism can be written off simply on the notion that "Haters be Hating".
"Hater" is not a term I personally like, though there certainly are people who will go around posting aggressively opinionated spew with no other goal but to attack something they do not like, and do not want others to enjoy either. There are certainly people that cannot deal with the notion that any other opinion could possibly be valid,  and certainly there are people that rather than put forth civil arguments and defend them, they mean only to rain on other's parades. For lack of a better term, and for discussion purposes, I decided to use the slang has I have seen it used in reference to negative opinions. There is another term I would use for the opposite end of the spectrum in this case, but in the interest of not simply providing a battlefield, and setting the front lines for such, I have decided to personally avoid using any more slang than I deem needed. Unfortunately this results in a rather unavoidable appearance of targeting a specific group in the short term, but I think in the long term it allows much more flexibility for personal interpretation, while maintaining focus mainly on the specific allegations I have mentioned.
Hate itself can truly be a very strong word for some. It can also be a word tossed about casually for others. Depending on life experience it can very well be a word that should be used to describe feelings for someone that murdered a family member. For others it's merely a convenient word to describe feelings towards cheese.
In terms of this poll I left it very much open to personal interpretation, with a black and white, yes or no option. There is a theory behind this that I will leave out for now so as not to taint the results.
All will be revealed after the poll closes. 

In related news, I have updated the conditions to allow votes to be changed, just in case the resulting discussion changes any minds.

Hater?

...No!...

Its on my Hard Drive, to use..or not..as I fancy!... ...!

Paul...FS 2002/FS 2004/FSX.....and Flight... ...!

I think by using the word 'Hate' you are not going to get a balanced feedback or result .. Few people really hate it .. It's too strong a term.


It would be the same if you said 'Do you Love it?' ..


For most FS users it is something on the lower side of the middle ...

So maybe we should re-do this with a scale of liking - 1 = Really don't like it & 10 = Really like it ....

I have just closed the poll.
I have not been entirely comfortable with the presentation/wording, and given posts that only serve to highlight my misgivings, and the notion that the results would not be helpful anyway, I would end it early and thank those who have participated.
I am leaving the results for reasons of transparency, but I must admit that participants were likely unfairly asked to make a choice based on an overly strong use of the word hate.
I see no reason that civil discussion cannot continue should any feel the desire, and my apologies to any that felt they were unfairly swayed to a given choice.
Thanks again.

I don't hate a software game ,in fact its okay ,boring but its ok and free
how ever I don't like ,the Company and executives who tries to brainwash everyone around ,and few has already,and how they just took a desitions without even think the consequences,To have all the FS control of everything, to attempt to  destroy for their convenience something that has shaped alone for many years , entire Sites, People the FS community,

they destroy Aces, they destroy and sold the whole MSFS world to and other company and seems to be now their aiming the FS community to grab it and maybe deleted too? well Its not theirs
 
Few has  being brainwash already and claim that its the best simulator ever done or its better than FSX when even this company still doesn't know what it is a game ,and arcade , and simulator a recipe for cook, a race horse? 

I go for what I see ,simple as that ,I see other facts ,the lies of this company pretty obvious now turns out they will build the entire world for FLIGHT yeeeeeeaaahhh!! right.    
I hate being manipulated ,I hate to see Others manipulate others with a cheap and really bad advertising for money specially when the truth Its so visible..


Alex