I've been hearing many disputesbetween flight and fsx. Tell your side here and vote!

Fozzer wrote on Jan 15^th, 2012 at 7:39am:

I went to the 2012 ces and went to the booth and got to try it out... graphics are increadible. Physycs to me were too arcade like to me  aling with the fact that I played it on an xbox. Ill still get it

alrot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2012 at 8:09am:


+1

corcor123 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2012 at 7:47am:


What controllers did they have available? I've seen videos from CES and the planes are being controlled with XBox controllers or a mouse, so physics aren't really easy to judge, I would imagine. While I won't go into details, I will say that my experience has been far improved flight dynamics over FSX.  Possibly the realism settings were turned down?

Thinking a bit more more about the Poll, and my reply; "cant wait to get it", I suppose that, as the main program is free to run anyway, there is nothing to be lost by downloading it, and trying it out!

It finally comes down to; are we prepared to pay for any/all of the "additions" to improve it/expand it?

I'm eager to try it out in the first place...for free!.. ...!

Paul... ...!

"Maybe" came the closest for my choice, not because I haven't decided, since I will most likely download it, but as to continuing to download new additions, that depends on how I like the freebie.  Anything past that depends on how much MS is going to charge for scenery and aircraft addons, and the aircraft addons available. Though I'm sure they will eventually offer some high performance military aircraft, I doubt seriously they will offer something like a Battlstar Galactica Viper, or a Buck Rogers Thunderfighter, any time soon.

I've no doubt that if "Flight" was to appear in my local Game Store as a full, boxed version of the Sim, the same as the previous boxed versions of the MS Flight simulators, and at a similar price, I would be the first to throw money at it...
...if only just for the experience of trying it out, and comparing it to my other Flight Sims...

...its what I do... ...!

Paul...with a house full of boxed versions of; "Things"... ...!

alrot wrote on Jan 16^th, 2012 at 7:59am:
yeah it comes as freeware then planes and scenery are payware. At the ces they told me that other planes are in development. And will range in cost of 99c to 5$. Not bad. I dunnoh about scenery. Its pretty dumb how this is. I WANT A DARNED BOXED VERSION.

i will get the free download, but i know too little to say i will buy. i need to know more about scenery and planes.

Boikat wrote on Jan 16^th, 2012 at 10:32am:


I can remember the "petition" at the start of FSX...

...and look what happened to that!

The Aces Team appeared to take notice of some of the Simmers daft requests for the "impossible", which finally made the program mostly unplayable for most of the Simmers!

I would hope that the Flight designers will take more care with the coding this time, (I leave it to them. We tend to come up with stupid requests!), to make it playable + enjoyable for the majority of Simmers/Gamers... ...!

Paul... ...!

corcor123 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2012 at 8:08am:


another thing to wonder about:how big are the areas?
if its whole countries and continents then this might actualy be cheaper.
eg:

whole of north america=10 euro(large+detailed scenery...)
whole of europe=6 euro(same but smaller+bit less scenery)
whole of hawaii=9 euro(in total (EXTREMELY detailed scenery.)

and i don't think there is many other places most people would fly in exept australia.

or if you DO want to buy addons:give yourself a budget similar to the price of FSX.

i am downloading it but not buying anything.
no i am not promoting it or have been hacked.

Hagar wrote on Jan 16^th, 2012 at 11:19am:


I think microsoft is gonna pull another apple and make it like the app store where you make it and microsoft will have to approve it, and if any price on it they will get like 20% or something like that...but thats just what i think

pete wrote on Jan 16^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:


Mostly dreams not speculation....

I'm not going to bother with Flight for several years, if ever. Not after all of the time, effort, resources, pain and suffering I (we) went through to get FSX to finally work. I probably sunk $1,500 in programs alone, not to mention, the seven computers I went through before I found one that would run FSX. I think I'm set for quite awhile... I might think about Flight III, or whatever they're going to call it in 2022.

Dave

jetprop wrote on Jan 21^st, 2012 at 5:16pm:



A bit off the topic but the human eye is only capable of computing about 26 frames per second. A dogs eyes can run at nearly twice that rate, making them more capable at catching a ball than we are~
  More to the subject, FSX cost me more than 3 grand if I add it all up from day one, partially because I didn't know what I was doing. Now FSX is still costing me money because I think I know what I'm doing.   

I think the maximum fps for fsx is 96 if you run it like that, STOP playing video games and continue designing that space ship

jetprop wrote on Jan 21^st, 2012 at 6:33pm:

I spend 1/2 of the time on the web looking for free stuff
But Flight is free, so it could not hurt to try

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Well, I'll readily admit that I'm more hard-nosed and aggressive than most folks, that being said...

In general, they just didn't have the "horsepower" to make a nice, smooth take off and landing (even with a trike). I'm a veteran of over 80 re/installs with FSX/Acceleration. I went through the first 3 computers when SP1 was being worked on (we didn't know that at the time). I had #4 when SP2 was being worked on (we didn't know that at the time either). I still couldn't take off and land a Skyhawk without studdering, freezing and crashing with #5. #6 is now my back up, it is real good, it is an i7 920, 12Gs and 1G vid card with limited cooling. Now I have an i7 985, 16Gs and 2G vid card with eight fans and intercooler. With this computer I can take off, "fly" and land a small twin engine without a problem - all smooth, all the time, no crashes because of over-heating, running out memory etc. Basically, no excuses.

On the program side: I bought FSX on the release date for $80. I also bought Acceleration on it's release date for $60. Then UTX US&CAN, GEX NA, FEX, MTX, Traffic X, AFX, Heli-Traffic 2009, IS2, were about $40 a pop, REX was $80. So that's about $420. Over time I have purchased about 25-30 payware aircraft at an average of $30 a pop (quick math, jeez) $800-$900. I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff like a registered version of FSUIPC to run some hardware - oh yeah, hardware, I have some Saitek and GoFlight stuff too.

And yeah, I write and edit my own AI traffic plans which I use along with freeware packages, I use some freeware sceneries and overhaul some of my local airports too.... I'd say I have invested a little bit into FSX.

Oh, I almost forgot, I enjoy "flying" all of my aircraft while checking out the nice scenery too! 

Dave

I just spent a small fortune on scenery for FSX, but do not regret it. If Flight proves itself to be on the hardcore side I will spend the bucks. If it continues to be a token collector, spend it on FSX and Prepar 3D version 2.

F35LightningII wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2012 at 8:40pm:


Like I said, I don't mind spending a premium price for a good,  world wide sim.
Personally,  I would not mind spending say, $200 for a good world wide sim.

However one can bet the ranch that it will be far over $200 for flight for wold wide coverage with a few aircrafft. So far, one could  not  even see $200. 
Their game plan is to milk it for all it's worth and it has obviously been the plan from squate one.

On must think like an account . If that model  can work with a rail sim, let's do the same for those flight sim  suckers..... they  are so hungry for a new sim, that  they will buy anyrhing we give them.
Let's  also ban third party  add-ons so we can grab  all the gold from those suckers!
They fail to realize that while one can not leave the rails and modeling a single RR or just a few RRs  makes sense. However, we can fly anwhere in the word once airborn. Will we be like Jim Carrey  in "The Truman Show" with flight??   

MS evdently did not  learn their lesson with Vista!  The geneal public is not that stupid. I hope the flight sim public is not that stupid also!

BTW, anyone who does not think the accountants are in  charge is  extremely naive IMO.

jetprop wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 5:36pm:

Whoever is in charge, they  listen to the accountants.  After all, they pay them for their expertise in maximizing profit (not for advise about marketing  a good product) and  making money is the sole reason for MSFS!

Nope. Never.

well they send me another and last letter and I think I got some token with them that allows me to have extra airplanes and extra lands

  I been a good guy  as a Beta

they said I can't say anything about my experience ,but I can say I'm a beta ,right? It will be release the 29th

In my humble and not revealing anything opinion ,I think this software did not came to replace FSX its another alternative ,its a quite different thing than FSX,
THE PROBLEM WAS THAT EVERY ONE THOUGHT THIS Flight CAME TO REPLACE FSX

and FSX will live until the hell froze muah ha haaa!

and why not? It will be free download of course I'll get it as soon they release it ,as long doesn't mess up with my FS10 

Alex

I have a question now..Where does that thing about that the Flight SDK will be in Maya? that the new SDK will be improve because that was and obsolete code ..where do you and how can you assure things like that ? So many post at the beginning ,base on what? why people do this kind of things?

It's free, of course I'll download it.  ...I just don't anticipate playing it for very long or buying any of the DLC.  FSX is my main sim regardless of how fun Flight winds up being.

M.S.M wrote on Feb 16^th, 2012 at 12:22am:


Edit: I meant DVD while I typed CD-ROM. Sorry, It is just a silly slip.