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BOEING 707 - Pack HOTT CO-PILOT !!!!! (Read 5195 times)
Reply #15 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 3:28am

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Jetranger wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 11:09pm:
Hey Mr. Dave71K - I ain't to worried about puunction as I was getting my point across - as well as how many others feel as well  !!! and I can read every single WORD that was typed in that post and I'm quite sure others can too - givin a few commas and dashes

I would have to agree with Dave. Most of your lengthy posts are illegible due to lack of punctuation & paragraphs. You might well be making good points but I suspect most people are like me & faced with a huge block of text not separated by paragraphs will read no further than the first line.
 

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Reply #16 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 4:50am

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I agree with Dave and Hagar, i'm not a native english speaker and i really have a hard time understanding your wall of text.
Some paragraphs to structure your post would really help.
 
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Reply #17 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 5:30am

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Ok Jetranger let me answer to my best.
1. Just because developers do not/cannot speak English does not mean they are not good developers.
Do you have the Pro-Tupolev fsx native tu-154, Or the Rolland Laborie Mirage 2000?

Above are 2 examples of some of the best fsx native planes.
They do not speak English, they still are great planes.
The English community needs to understand that the Simulator community Is Worldwide. Therefore
If you don't like having other languages develop just because they don't know English then stop being unfair PERIOD.
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Reply #18 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 5:41am

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Also Alrot I didn't find the MD83 on Avsim or Flightsim.com luckily. If I find it on any other site I'll tell you so you can ask for it to be removed.
 

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Reply #19 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 8:11am

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andy190 wrote on Jan 13th, 2012 at 5:41am:
Also Alrot I didn't find the MD83 on Avsim or Flightsim.com luckily. If I find it on any other site I'll tell you so you can ask for it to be removed.



Thanks Andy I also did the same thing with those two sites  yesterday  Smiley

we have to acknowledge  that the site FS_Freeware.net has remove the file ,that is honesty and I sure It wasn't their fault either..

  I have my suspicious ,the Name Roberto TV or Torres Its so common , if it wasn't for the repaints I would be 100% sure that this could be someone doing it just to annoy me.
  Why he just pick few of my models only?

  thanks you for posting this Jetranger otherwise I wouldn't knew this ..

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Reply #20 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 9:22am
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Jetranger wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 11:09pm:
and as far as complaining about ones work or PRODUCTS - you bet your Azz ~ !!! I suppose your the type if you were to guy buy a car off a dealership show room floor and it fell apart on the way home - your just going to do nothing and be all quiet like ???? /


The point is....if you go and buy a car off a dealership you PAY for it....the stuff you are complaining about is FREE, these people have no obligation to do the work or make sure it is 'of FSX standard'
You simply cannot complain about something that is FREE.
You should be grateful they are doing it at all. If you have a problem with freeware aircraft get your credit card out and buy payware.

I have to admit I have downloaded hundreds of freeware aircraft and 90% don't stay in my hanger for longer than the first load up.  But I then think...well it was free so whatever. Then occasionally you will find a gem like Alrots MD83 or his Citation X and when you do you should be very grateful for the work they have put in for NO payment.

I find you very arrogant, you have joined this forum and just complained from the start. You have made no effort to join the community, help people or even post some nice screenshots, you just complain. 

I'm seeing more and more of this critising of freeware on this site by members who have posted very few times indeed and I find it very annoying, the point of this site is to promote freeware and support the designers. I think you will find 90% of the members of this forum will agree with me here.

 
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Reply #21 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 3:54pm

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Jetranger wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 11:09pm:
and as far as complaining about ones work or PRODUCTS - you bet your Azz ~ !!! I suppose your the type if you were to guy buy a car off a dealership show room floor and it fell apart on the way home - your just going to do nothing and be all quiet like ???? /


The point is....if you go and buy a car off a dealership you PAY for it....the stuff you are complaining about is FREE, these people have no obligation to do the work or make sure it is 'of FSX standard'
You simply cannot complain about something that is FREE.
You should be grateful they are doing it at all. If you have a problem with freeware aircraft get your credit card out and buy payware.

I have to admit I have downloaded hundreds of freeware aircraft and 90% don't stay in my hanger for longer than the first load up.  But I then think...well it was free so whatever. Then occasionally you will find a gem like Alrots MD83 or his Citation X and when you do you should be very grateful for the work they have put in for NO payment.

I find you very arrogant, you have joined this forum and just complained from the start. You have made no effort to join the community, help people or even post some nice screenshots, you just complain. 

I'm seeing more and more of this critising of freeware on this site by members who have posted very few times indeed and I find it very annoying, the point of this site is to promote freeware and support the designers. I think you will find 90% of the members of this forum will agree with me here.


DITTO!
Oh, and Alrot, I think your 707 kicks butt. Cool  I've toyed with the idea of repainting in the livery from the movie 'Airplane!' (was it Trans American?) with Otto the autopilot in place of the cutie currently flying right-seat.  Sadly I have NO skills in the repainting department. Cry
Keep up the hard work and try not to let people tick you off. Wink Smiley
 
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Reply #22 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 4:10pm

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Heck! I like when people say good things about my work! Even if everyone else dislikes it and there's one person that says: Hey, that's pretty cool!
I'll be happy and continue my work, even if only that person apreciates it.
Now, I don't like people disliking my work for no reason. I usually ask them what do they thing it's wrong so I can improve my tecniques. Most of the stuff you criticise was probably made ages ago when the developer was still new and now someone just added some stuff and placed it online again. No one starts perfect, and this being a freeware add-on site you'll see a lot of imperfect stuff because most of the good developers are professionals in 3D modeling, for example, and they make you pay for their work... What you're doing is basicaly the same as someone getting a cookie for free and then complaining about how it is slightly crushed on one side...
 

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Reply #23 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 5:42pm

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Alrot I found the MD83 on fsdownload.com here's the link.

And here's the contact page.

I also found it on fsxdownloads.com here's the link.

I can't find a contact page but this page has their email address.
 

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Reply #24 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 9:40am

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Xpand wrote on Jan 13th, 2012 at 4:10pm:
I don't like people disliking my work for no reason. I usually ask them what do they thing it's wrong so I can improve my tecniques
. Most of the stuff you criticise was probably made ages ago when the developer was still new and now someone just added some stuff and placed it online again.
No one starts perfect, and this being a freeware add-on site you'll see a lot of imperfect stuff because most of the good developers are professionals in 3D modeling
, for example, and they make you pay for their work... What you're doing is basicaly the same as someone getting a cookie for free and then complaining about how it is slightly crushed on one side...


then you would have to change thousands of times and yet few people would never bee satisfied ,I remember this Crappy old 707 which I'm planing one of this days to kill that woman ,change that ugly fuselage That there was a complint about my 707 and turnd out to be other model from someone else, He posted Alrot 707 issue and post few shot and wasn't even mine
You have to hear your own common sense in this ,Many people Didn't like the times back a long time ago when I used to put a copilot girl in the left seat ,then I never put a doll there any more


I'm also so glad you acknowledge this specially when you perhaps  a newbie in Gmax in early 2008 or 2007 if I remember ,
or Like I was in 2006 when I was asking every where dealing with the barrier of language, I meet good designers,my teachers all over this road Like Milton Shupe, Bill Leaming, Bill Lyons ,I used to Live literally in FFDS site ,But I was Humble and with my head low   
,I been in this as a hobby of design since 2005-2006 and I'm still a learner ,
No need to be professional or graduated in 3d design ,I ve seen many piece of art in gmax from people that has Improve (Kirk Olson,Tomas Ruth etc) over the years I also has improved or that's what people said , some of oldest and most crappy old airplanes are still popular ,you can ask out there not need to promote my self




andy190 wrote on Jan 13th, 2012 at 5:42pm:
Alrot I found the MD83 on fsdownload.com here's the link.

And here's the contact page.

I also found it on fsxdownloads.com here's the link.

I can't find a contact page but this page has their email address.


I just send them both emails ,this is definitely someone that know me ,this has to be on purpose ,again and its coming from someone very close ...

  I think I know who he is ,and the 707 hmm I'm making my own research ..

Thanks Andy

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Reply #25 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 11:15am

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alrot wrote on Jan 14th, 2012 at 9:40am:
then you would have to change thousands of times and yet few people would never bee satisfied ,I remember this Crappy old 707 which I'm planing one of this days to kill that woman ,change that ugly fuselage That there was a complint about my 707 and turnd out to be other model from someone else, He posted Alrot 707 issue and post few shot and wasn't even mine
You have to hear your own common sense in this ,Many people Didn't like the times back a long time ago when I used to put a copilot girl in the left seat ,then I never put a doll there any more





Well, of course when I think something is right I won't change it. I'm talking about things like unnecessary low poly counts on some of my models and stuff like that. When someone tells me they don't like it because it's ugly that's their problem... But tat least they said why they didn't like it... Grin
 

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Reply #26 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 11:53am

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Xpand wrote on Jan 14th, 2012 at 11:15am:
Well, of course when I think something is right I won't change it. I'm talking about things like unnecessary low poly counts on some of my models and stuff like that. When someone tells me they don't like it because it's ugly that's their problem... But tat least they said why they didn't like it... Grin


Exactly!!! You spend time that you could be using for other, more important things and then some people come and call them ugly.
e.g Some people would not download one of the best freeware planes (Not going to give names) because he refused to allow repaints. Saying that it was "freeware" and they do not see what the problem is. Undecided
And I think that just because something is labelled 'freeware" it means that the Author has no rights over their creations and so you can upload.
I think you should start putting in your readme files:
This file is NOT Freeware. It was sold to you at the cost of $0.00.
Just a thought.
And Stop posting files without the original author's permission. You are giving SimV, Fsfreeware, Fsdownload e.t.c bad names. The Administrators and Moderators of these sites have much bettger things to do.

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Reply #27 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 11:58am

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Xpand wrote on Jan 14th, 2012 at 11:15am:
alrot wrote on Jan 14th, 2012 at 9:40am:
then you would have to change thousands of times and yet few people would never bee satisfied ,I remember this Crappy old 707 which I'm planing one of this days to kill that woman ,change that ugly fuselage That there was a complint about my 707 and turnd out to be other model from someone else, He posted Alrot 707 issue and post few shot and wasn't even mine
You have to hear your own common sense in this ,Many people Didn't like the times back a long time ago when I used to put a copilot girl in the left seat ,then I never put a doll there any more





Well, of course when I think something is right I won't change it. I'm talking about things like unnecessary low poly counts on some of my models and stuff like that. When someone tells me they don't like it because it's ugly that's their problem... But tat least they said why they didn't like it... Grin


I forgot to mention about the left doll copilot that people complaint mostly not because of the poly countdowns (Optimize the magic tool   ) but because it distract them and some were too shy and say that it won't allow them to see in the left window  Grin I wonder if they would really be pilot how they would do with a real dude next to them  Grin
well It took me another extra unnecessary work ,it was a little bit hard to map those dolls



this one used to move her legs with the rudder pedals   Grin
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Reply #28 - Jan 14th, 2012 at 12:02pm

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Eheh, at least you can make people. I have to use the same pilot template I've been using since my first days of modeling in 2007...
 

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Reply #29 - Jan 21st, 2012 at 11:52am

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Jetranger wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 9:39pm:
Ya ~ well, I'm seeing quite a bit of this going on' and I'm also see a lotta Aircraft being titled & labeled in the title & descriptions as being for Flight Sim "FSX", when clearly after downloading it - you feel like you just got a hold of a Flight Simulator 98' or 2000' aircraft - the textures and paint are that Poor and the panel & cockpit look like something some pre=schooler drew up,, its been getting quite badd the last 6 months on Various FREEWARE websites, and I don't mean just this one but about all of them lately,



Jetranger wrote on Jan 12th, 2012 at 11:09pm:
I suppose your the type if you were to guy buy a car off a dealership show room floor and it fell apart on the way home - your just going to do nothing and be all quiet like ????  or you get your vehicle out of the shop from being repaired and its not right - your just going to be all quiet like ??





JetRanger.......here at the SimV download site we have a nifty little "zip file preview" on all downloads. If you were to take the time to preview the file before you download it you would eliminate every single complaint you made in your post..............and comparing a faulty new car which you PAYED for from the DEALERSHIP to a FREEWARE aircraft on a FREEWARE site is simply comparing apples to oranges Huh


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Up, up the long, delerious, burning blue I've topped the wind swept heights with easy grace where never Lark, nor even Eagle flew. While with silent lifting of mind I've trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space, put out my hand and touched the face of god"
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