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Jul 12th, 2011 at 4:26pm

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Well I finally find a car I like but the problem is its a manual transmition.  My mom won't let me get it like that... Undecided  How hard/much would it be to make it an automatic?
 


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Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:37pm

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lol that's not going to happen.  You virtually never hear of anyone going through the process of converting a manual car into an automatic.  Tell your mom to not be so weird about it, you should just learn how to drive a stickshift.  Better mileage and more fun to drive, not to mention cheaper than an automatic car.
 
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Reply #2 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 9:01pm

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Had I, here in Italy, bought an automatic car, back in the days when my mom dictated my life (ah, the good old days... NOT), she would have been totally, and I mean TOTALLY... ashamed of me, verging on complete disowning, had I insisted. Grin

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Reply #3 - Jul 13th, 2011 at 3:52am

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skoker wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 4:26pm:
Well I finally find a car I like but the problem is its a manual transmition.  My mom won't let me get it like that... Undecided  How hard/much would it be to make it an automatic?



What is she afraid of, you will learn to drive properly  Grin Grin Grin

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PS, More money that a down payment on a really nice new car.

PPS Maybe she knows about the Noz conversion on it that you have not told her about  Grin Grin
 

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Reply #4 - Jul 13th, 2011 at 5:59am

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Stubbedtoe18 wrote on Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:37pm:
lol that's not going to happen.  You virtually never hear of anyone going through the process of converting a manual car into an automatic.  Tell your mom to not be so weird about it, you should just learn how to drive a stickshift.  Better mileage and more fun to drive, not to mention cheaper than an automatic car.

That may be true where you are from. But here, it is not that uncommon, especially by builders of street rods.

But I suspect it is a lot more difficult when done on a late model, and in this case, not really practical.
 

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Reply #5 - Jul 13th, 2011 at 11:19am

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Just learn how to drive manual. It makes boring cars like my Neon actually kind of fun to drive, and it's a little cheaper than an automatic as well.

Although it's the opposite of what you want, my neighbor has converted a couple of his minivans from auto to manual over the years...to "make them more interesting." he said. Grin
 

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Reply #6 - Jul 14th, 2011 at 12:20am

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Forget it... I once helped a friend do a similar procedure (taking the engine and manual trans out of a wrecked Volvo P1800 and installing it in another, after removing the engine and automatic trans from that one), and even with proper tools, a lift, and more experience (none of which we had, LOL), it's a big job, and the labor bill would be scary. I was glad we didn't have separate either engine from its transmission, also... and we got lucky that one of the two drive shafts actually fit in the new installation.
And those were mid-70s cars... plenty of room and less wiring, etc. Working in the engine bay or underneath almost any car built after 1980 is like trying to build a brick BBQ pit inside a walnut shell. And if it's front-wheel drive, fageddabouddit!  Shocked

I don't get your mom's reasoning. Better fuel mileage, cheaper to maintain... and usually a lot more durable.
The only snag with some manuals is that while learning to shift properly, you might wear out the clutch. But it's not hard to learn to do it right, and a good clutch and transmission will take some abuse.

And yeah, it's more fun. More control; personally I think it enhances safety in many situations. I don't mind working a stick in stop'n'go traffic, either, even though my car's drivetrain is trucklike, and the left foot gets a good workout.

Tell her about the safety, the mileage, and the savings... and whatever you do, don't mention anything about hooning.  Wink  Grin

If you do wind up with the stick, however, remember about downshifting: brake work is cheap, clutch work is expensive!  Wink
 

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Reply #7 - Jul 14th, 2011 at 4:00am

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What is your mother's reasoning against?

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Reply #8 - Jul 14th, 2011 at 4:10am

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I hate the thought of automatics. It's not real driving; it's just steering! I'd definately work on trying to convince the parents... It's the proper way to drive, it teaches you to drive the correct way, and I imagine in certain road conditions it's probably safer. On a slippy and slidey steep road in winter I was glad to be able to fix it in second gear whilst rolling down that  Grin
 

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Reply #9 - Jul 16th, 2011 at 12:25am

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expat wrote on Jul 14th, 2011 at 4:00am:
What is your mother's reasoning against?

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She's afraid I don't know how to drive it, since when she was my age she borrowed her friends car and repeatedly hit a city bus because she couldn't figure out how to take it out of gear...  Roll Eyes

Also a few years ago she ruined the transmition on my uncles car when she accelerated at a light in neutral and jammed it into gear.  So she is pretty much totally against manuals. Tongue
 


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Reply #10 - Jul 16th, 2011 at 5:44am

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skoker wrote on Jul 16th, 2011 at 12:25am:
expat wrote on Jul 14th, 2011 at 4:00am:
What is your mother's reasoning against?

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She's afraid I don't know how to drive it, since when she was my age she borrowed her friends car and repeatedly hit a city bus because she couldn't figure out how to take it out of gear...  Roll Eyes

Also a few years ago she ruined the transmition on my uncles car when she accelerated at a light in neutral and jammed it into gear.  So she is pretty much totally against manuals. Tongue

She probably learned to drive on an automatic. It's easy enough to convert from a manual to an auto but not so easy the other way round.

I've been driving for over 50 years & got my first automatic about 15 years ago. I would never willingly go back to manual.
 

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Reply #11 - Jul 16th, 2011 at 6:18am

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skoker wrote on Jul 16th, 2011 at 12:25am:
expat wrote on Jul 14th, 2011 at 4:00am:
What is your mother's reasoning against?

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She's afraid I don't know how to drive it, since when she was my age she borrowed her friends car and repeatedly hit a city bus because she couldn't figure out how to take it out of gear...  Roll Eyes

Also a few years ago she ruined the transmition on my uncles car when she accelerated at a light in neutral and jammed it into gear.  So she is pretty much totally against manuals. Tongue



So what she is say is, because she is hopeless with a manual, maybe she thinks the apple does not fall far from the tree Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #12 - Jul 16th, 2011 at 6:39am

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Go for a manual, they're just so much easier and if you're anywhere near competent as a driver you're far less like to have a gear-related accident than in an automatic! E.g. you have full control of the car.
Also my mum has to use an automatic due to surgery and her left leg being very weak and I've seen the bills for clutch changes on that Shocked She is not a girl racer but holy moley they are expensive! Also if a manual goes tits up the box is a lot easier to swap than an automatic, you don't need weird tools to align strange things!
I've had one automatic and I have to say on short journeys and off the lights it was great, but for any decent amount of driving the fuel economy was pants!
 

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Reply #13 - Jul 16th, 2011 at 11:04am

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I drove a stick for 12 years, starting in 1976.  I chose the stick over an automatic for reasons of driving fun, gas mileage, and cost. 

I taught myself how to shift/clutch before I bought the car just by sitting in a chair and going through the motions, so when I got the car I was pretty much OK with driving it; took a few days to get comfy and about 2 weeks to shift without having to think about it.

It was fun for most of that time, but after 12 years I eventually tired of it.

In my opinion, manuals are not necessarily safer than automatics.  Driving safety and technique is up to the driver regardless of what trans you've got.   In today's Miami traffic, I prefer, and feel safer, with my automatic now, with both hands on the wheel. I have been in too many situations where I had to react and steer very quickly.   Besides, a manual doesn't do much good in a gridlock.

But there's nothing wrong with manual trans if that's what you prefer, actually, I'd say it's good to know how to drive them, it does take the boredom out of driving, and it can promote good driving technique.

Good luck.  Maybe you can talk to Mum again. 
 
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Reply #14 - Jul 16th, 2011 at 1:58pm

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Do you have any idea how hard it is to get the back end out on a wet roundabout in an automatic 3-series? In a manual I can do it in the dry! With the automatic you need a couple of bags of cement or a dead mafia boss in the boot Grin Grin Grin
 

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