Simviation Forum - Fokker EIII?

Apr 24^th, 2011 at 9:11am

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Hi guys, I've been searching high and low for a Fokker EIII Eindekker to download, without success, any suggestions?

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Reply #1 - Apr 24^th, 2011 at 10:06am

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Go over to Aerocrate.

http://aerocrate.com/aircraft.html

This is a great site for WWI aircraft. Sadly it's been inactive for a few years, but the downloads are still there.

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Reply #2 - Apr 24^th, 2011 at 7:03pm

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Thanks there's some good stuff in there, I d/l'd the EIII and created a mission and hit 'Fly now' but it wouldn't run, I got the message-"Aircraft initialisation failure Fok EIII".
Am I permanently grounded or can it be fixed?

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Reply #3 - Apr 24^th, 2011 at 7:51pm

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Wait a minute, I already asked that question about another plane a few weeks ago (duh), I saved the two replies and will go check them out and let you know how I get on..

EDIT- no joy, I checked it's not double-wrapped and I rebooted without success. The other suggestions are a bit too techy for me (I'm just a grunt wargamer)
Here's how the file looks in the Aircraft folder, is anything missing?

And below are the forum replies I got when I asked previously,but I haven't a clue what are config.dp/quickcom/cdp/dat etc?

Reply 1 - First make sure you have the correct folders within the aircraft folder, ie model/sound/etc.
Second, check that the name of the aircraft in the cfg is the same on the aircrafts folder and .dp.
Third, make sure the aircraft isn't "doublewrapped" in folders.
Fourth, Sometimes rebooting is needed to get it properly 'registered' within the sim.
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Reply 2 - Just replace the Quickcom\qc_plane.qcb file with the original and delete all plane *.cdp files and all filelist.dat files and restart CFS2. This always works for me when I get your described errors.

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Reply #4 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 12:17pm

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In fact the aircraft initialisation issue has plagued me over the years; it affects about 1 in 6 aircraft I download.
Usually it's no big deal because I simply search for another plane of the same type which will initialise fine, but that Aerocrate EIII is apparently the only one on the net (?) so I'm stuck.

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Reply #5 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 12:46pm

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Have you tried the EIII in Free Flight? The Sound.cfg file is aliased to the Nieup_17. If you haven't got the Nieup_17 installed the EIII won't be listed on the Free Flight menu. That might explain your problem.

You can always re-alias the sound to an aircraft you do have.

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Reply #6 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 1:42pm

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I d/l'd the EIII and created a mission and hit 'Fly now' but it wouldn't run, I got the message-"Aircraft initialisation failure Fok EIII".

Am I permanently grounded or can it be fixed?

The Sound.cfg file is aliased to the Nieup_17. If you haven't got the Nieup_17 installed the EIII won't be listed on the Free Flight menu. That might explain your problem.

Yep.....that's number six in the list of Common CFS2 Problems & Fixes in the Sticky post at the top of the forum page. Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 2:21pm

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Ok thanks, replacing the sound file solved it, dunno how I missed that piece of advice before, duh..
Screenshot from 2 minutes ago:- DH2's meet the Fokkers-

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Reply #8 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 2:43pm

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Glad you got it working.

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dunno how I missed that piece of advice before, duh..

Whenever you install a new aircraft it's always a good idea to check it out in Free Flight before attempting to use it in a mission. Then you will soon find out if it's correctly installed.

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Reply #9 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 2:50pm

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Hmmm on paper that sounds fine, but I had a few bad experiences with free flight a while ago because some downloaded machines woudn't work in FF but would work in mission builder (or was it vice-versa?), so nowadays I bypass FF completely and just go straight to MB as life's so much simpler that way..

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Reply #10 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 2:55pm

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Scatterbrain Kid wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 2:50pm:

Hmmm on paper that sounds fine, but I had a few bad experiences with free flight a while ago because some downloaded machines woudn't work in FF but would work in mission builder (or was it vice-versa?), so nowadays I bypass FF completely and just go straight to MB as life's so much simpler that way..

If an aircraft won't work in Free Flight I very much doubt it will work in a mission. (Excepting aircraft configured as AI Only drones which won't be listed on the Free Flight selection menu.)

Now you know what to look for you should be able to fix all the other aircraft you've had problems with.

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Reply #11 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 8:19pm

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Scatterbrain Kid wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 2:50pm:

... so nowadays I bypass FF completely and just go straight to MB as life's so much simpler that way..

Simpler? You mean filled with addons that don't work? Shocked

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Reply #12 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 10:16pm

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Simple missions only take me 2 minutes to build, and if an aircraft won't work I fix it and try again, I see no need to waste time trying it in free flight first..

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Reply #13 - Apr 26^th, 2011 at 2:35am

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Scatterbrain Kid wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 12:17pm:

In fact the aircraft initialisation issue has plagued me over the years; it affects about 1 in 6 aircraft I download.

Scatterbrain Kid wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 10:16pm:

Simple missions only take me 2 minutes to build, and if an aircraft won't work I fix it and try again, I see no need to waste time trying it in free flight first..

I rest my case. Wink

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Reply #14 - Apr 26^th, 2011 at 9:20am

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Let me clarify to clear up any misunderstandings-
If an aircraft fails to initialise, my habit has been to simply delete it and download another one, and another, until I find one that works.
But now in the first instance I shall replace a duds sound file instead, a remedy that usually works (but not always).
As regards free flight, I can't see any reason to use it which is why I do all my stuff in the mission editor all the time.
I mean, why would I want to try out a plane in free flight when it's just as convenient to try it out in the editor?

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