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Oct 11th, 2009 at 7:47pm

Diesel   Offline
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SmileyHave you guys heard of software or a utility that can be used to make 2 individual CH yokes move at the same time, without being fisicly connected.

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Reply #1 - Oct 11th, 2009 at 10:39pm

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There is nothing other than you hand that can make the physical wheel move inside the units.  SO it can't be done that way.

You'd have to convert them to some sort of force feedbakc units first.  BIG job.

Or use a mechanical linkage.

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Reply #2 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 9:36am

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Thanks JB.
  I found this in the (FSUIPC for Advanced Users)Do you think theres something here. I got a IQ of BAba CheesyHard to understand.

Multiple Joysticks
On FS2000–2004, using the Joystick sections of the FSUIPC dialogue to calibrate the main flight controls, FSUIPC can also accept up to four different control inputs for each main flight control, treating them equally. You can have up to 4 aileron, elevator, rudder, throttle, left and right brake controls. FSUIPC takes the value from the input giving maximum deflection from ‗neutral‘ or ‗idle‘. There‘s no averaging, or other types of conflict resolution, taking place. You have to somehow connect up your multiple joystick axes, whether by using an EPIC card, multiple Game Ports, or multiple USB devices. FSUIPC cannot help there. Having done that, you need to find ‗spare‘ FS controls which you will not otherwise be using from joystick inputs (see the lists in my FS2000 Controls documents)—it doesn‘t matter if you will be using those controls from the keyboard. FSUIPC only pinches the joystick inputs. You have to assign the additional joystick axes, wherever they may be, to these ―spare‖ controls. Now add to the FSUIPC.INI file‘s JoystickCalibration section (add the section if necessary) a list of declarations which define the additional controls you have assigned. You define these by number. The main flight controls are defined by parameters like this: AileronB=<control number> ElevatorB=<control number> RudderB=<control number> Other parameters here can define LeftBrakeB, RightBrakeB, ThrottleB, and also C and D versions of all 6 controls, so providing up to 4 copies of each one. Note that you will need to calibrate all controls so that the ones controlling the same values are as close as possible in range and response. Do this first in Windows Control Panel, then, after making the above adjustments and assignments, in FSUIPC. Calibrate dead zones at the ends (and in the centre for aileron, elevator and rudder) to ―cover up‖ any discrepancies—in other words, calibrate for the worst of each.

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Reply #3 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 3:46pm

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I've hooked up two joysticks before, it isn't that complicated as long as both pilots aren't trying to cancel each other out, it works fine, with no messy coding, just plug and play.  I don't know about slaving one to move with another though, I'd assume you'd need force feedback.
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 12th, 2009 at 10:50pm

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Hooking up two CH yokes is no problem. 

But what I think he wants to do is get them to physically MOVE in sync.  THAT is not going to happen.

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Reply #5 - Oct 13th, 2009 at 9:36am

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OK. Thanks alot guys.
 
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Reply #6 - Nov 18th, 2009 at 12:15pm

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JBaymore wrote on Oct 12th, 2009 at 10:50pm:
Hooking up two CH yokes is no problem. 

But what I think he wants to do is get them to physically MOVE in sync.  THAT is not going to happen.

best,

..........john


actually it "could" its just not gonna happen with the current programming, plus he would need to get servos, then find a way to code the program or what ever he would need to runt the yokes to actually treat them as one unit and then use force feed back, and well...its gonna get complicated, ugly and messy real quick...and I would definatly hope if this route is taken you have years of electrical experiance and soldering experience too...


if your looking to do this via program only no it won't be happening...and I don't think the yokes have servo moders in them do they? since you would need to send a signal (when turning left) that would go to the other controlers servo moter and cause it to do the same, that is fine, but you would have to do that for all directions, so you would need to be sending multiple signals which is gonna get tricky...and yes I DID attempt this verry idea once with a friend of mine who had a B747 setup...only issue was by trying to get the units to move in sync we wound up with lots of headachs and he had to buy new yokes because some how they got fried (too much current) so basicially the short answer?


NO WON'T BE POSSIBLE...least not via software and what not...


now if your really really adament about having both move in sync you could always try hooking up a pully system of some kind that runs between the two yokes but you would need to run the cables and what not (isnt that how most planes were done anyways???) before all this fly by wire stuff?)

so all in all...the verdict is...


Software synving (software only): NO
Hardware (no software): maybe, but with a bit of work and possibly some headaches...
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 18th, 2009 at 8:08pm

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CH and Saitek don't have force feedback in the yokes.

There are a few people who have converted yokes to force feedback by adding servos... but all say it is a deviously difficult project. 

SO in that sense... nope.

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Reply #8 - Nov 18th, 2009 at 9:23pm

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JBaymore wrote on Nov 18th, 2009 at 8:08pm:
CH and Saitek don't have force feedback in the yokes.

There are a few people who have converted yokes to force feedback by adding servos... but all say it is a deviously difficult project. 

SO in that sense... nope.

best,

.............john



basicially confirming my point Wink lol but yea, its not a project for the faint of heart....trust me....5 saitek yokes/sticks later...
 

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