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FSX - AMD Phenom x4 955 BE - Windows 7 64 Bit (Read 1941 times)
Reply #30 - Nov 7th, 2009 at 1:26pm

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laurits wrote on Oct 16th, 2009 at 3:07am:
The secret is the OS.

Windows 7 rocks - at least with some systems.

http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-games/1827-flight-simulator-x-anyone-install...

I just installed Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit,  on my old mediocre system: AMD Phenom 9650 2.3 Ghz, XFX "Black Dog" 9600 GT 768/1950/1080, 4 Gb ordinary DDR2 800 Mhz Kingston Ram, and I'm getting from 45 to 65 FPS at Friday Harbour with the Trike!

No defrag, no tweaks, just a "raw" install...

This is better than my current Q6600 / 8800 GTS / 800 DDR2 Crucials on Windows XP 64 bit.

People are apparently getting better performance with Win 7... and yes, I know, NickN doesn't recommend Win 7, maybe on his High End system there's no difference.





When it comes to gaming Win7 won't show any significant performance increase compared to XP or Vista.

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3666

 

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Reply #31 - Dec 23rd, 2009 at 12:50pm

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I saw a significant performance gain with the switch to vista, and then even better with win 7!
I'll help you out.
You know, there's a difference between theory and application. One can say that there SHOULD NOT be a gain just in a simple OS upgrade. However, if he saw one, why tell him he's full of garbage? How do you know? Maybe he is getting better performance with it. I will tell you that I AM getting BETTER PERFORMANCE with windows 7x64 than I ever got with vistax64. My install was unique with this one, though. I saved my important stuff to another HDD, and then formatted the one with the OS going on it. My vista install was plagued with errors and problems.
Never saw 40 FPS with vista. However, there is a MP flight I love to do between KEDW and KLSV that now hits regularly between 80-120 FPS, and got a screenshot with over 209!
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I'm seriously OC'd, but never hit it before. With WIN 7, and DX10 and all it's charms, I NOTICED a big gain from vista>7. It seems that a few people got really defensive in here, and I don't understand why?!? Poor guy didn't seem like he was trying to anger anyone, just make a point. Theory vs. Application. I, for one, noticed its performance capabilities over XP (with only DX9.0c) and vista. Lets hope I don't anger anyone, and I hope that this sheds light on the arguement over "should" vs. "does".
 

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Reply #32 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 9:02am

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Thanks for that information.  I was going to go to intell  with windows 7 pro, as I want to upgrade my athlon 64 3800 xp pro to a dual core.   Might stick with AMD after reading this and go with that chip and save some money. Thanks guys.

 
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Reply #33 - Jan 27th, 2011 at 7:05am

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Can someone point the way to helping over clock this rig?
I would appreciate it very much. Getting about 15fps and its a little choppy at 8fps.

I am new to over clocking so any instructions would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Reply #34 - Jan 27th, 2011 at 11:02am

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www.overclock.net

Join and post in the AMD CPU section.  A lot of AMD guru's over there will be more than happy to help you OC this.
 

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Reply #35 - Jan 27th, 2011 at 11:25am

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Speedy22 wrote on Jan 27th, 2011 at 7:05am:
Can someone point the way to helping over clock this rig?
I would appreciate it very much. Getting about 15fps and its a little choppy at 8fps.

I am new to over clocking so any instructions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit
LG Flatron E2350V 23" Display
AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0GHZ True Quad Core, 8MB total Cache (stock cooler)
Mobo: MSI 890GXM –G65
XFX Radeon HD 5570 1GB DDR3 (no XFire capabilities)
2X2GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1,600Mhz
HDD: 500GB Seagate Barracuda 7,200 RPM, 16MB Cache
Coolmax V600: 600W
Case: Antec 900
1-top mounted 200mm Exhaust fan, 1-rear mounted 120mm exhaust, 3-120mm intake.


Well, you are certainly going to have a challenge to get the most out of this rig, but you can definitely get a little more than advertised, no matter what. Overclocking is quite fun, especially when you get out of your system, a little more than it was supposed to give you. Wheeeee!!!

It does, though, push the limits of your system, and yourself. It will take above average power and cooling. You are off to a good start, but as soon as you reach a limit somewhere (usually the first BSOD) you will end up taking all of your money to the computer store for a bunch of parts.

Here's what to do. When your computer first starts up, there will be a screen to show you POST (power-on self-test) and then BIOS (basic input-output system). If you already knew about  these, sorry. You will have an option to view POST and BIOS (BIOS is what you want to get into,) and then another option to get into it and make changes. Sounds scary, but it's really not that bad. (Don't worry, almost EVERY system has an easy way to undo whatever we may screw up here). Ususally, before windows fires up, the [DEL] key will get you into BIOS.
In BIOS, your basic system info will be displayed, such as system time, processor info, and ammount of memory, etc.
Up near or at the top of yor BIOS screen, somewhere will be a tab (or something) that says advanced options.
This is where things go faster. There are options in there that allow you to make changes to basic things, depending on your BIOS.
If you can change CPU Front-side BUS speed, maybe give it a couple clicks. Not too much. Start small, and go from there. I think the 945 has a locked multiplier, but unsure. If you can change the multiplier, don't go too crazy. If it's 3.0 GHz, then you probably have (200MHz FSB x 15). Try x16=3.2GHz. With a 600W PSU, I'd be very careful how much I went up, because a few more items you may tweak will start to get deeper into the max of your PSU before they've given you their max potential. 3.2 for now will at least test if it will take it. If you can do that, then maybe we'll try some memory tweaks, too.
 

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