Simviation Forum - HOW DO I ADD AIRCRAFT FOR FS2000

Aug 27^th, 2008 at 4:46pm

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HOW DO I ADD NEW AIRCRAFT IN FS2000 I NEED STEP BY STEP INSRTUCTIONS NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE I HAVE WINDOWS XP.

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I DOWNLOAD AIRCRAFT AND AFTER IT'S DOWNLOAD ON THE CORNER THERES THIS BUBBLE AND IT SAYS FILES ARE READY TO BE WRITTEN ON A CD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT I WAS TOLD I DON'T NEED A CD BUT AFTER IT'S DOWNLOAD IT SHOWS UP ON MY DESKTOP AND THE FILES HAVE A ZIPPED UP ZIPPER WHAT DO I DO.

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Reply #1 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 10:32am

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Check the tutorials in Grumpy's Lair. Click here. Oh and welcome to Simviation.

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Reply #2 - Aug 31^st, 2008 at 5:10am

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I have a specific folder for downloads.
I also make another folder within it with the name of the aircraft I've just downloaded and move the zip file into it.
I then right-click on the zip and choose "extract into this folder"

I can then make another folder in the main FS aircraft folder named according to the air file of the new aircraft (if file names aren't matched, they're usually not accessed) and place copies of the download folder's files into it.

This method makes it a bit easier to track down any discrepancies and have back-up files, if necessary.

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Reply #3 - Mar 7^th, 2010 at 5:43pm

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I had some problems when I first registered in 4-09 and for various reasons never got back.

My response is, "very carefully." I lke to run fs2000 at times, and have had fs2000 go nuts when adding an aircraft or panel. Thus, I tend to add aircraft very cautiously. I usually download an aircraft to a temp file, check the panel and sound files (an aircraft will not display in fs2000) if either of these files has a problem (usually aliased to a file that doesn't exist). I correct whatever the problem might be. Simply copy and past into the fs2000 aircraft folder and test it. If I get the message that the aircraft cannot be displayed I run the mdl fix program and try again. Usually this will take care of the problem. FS2000 is a simple yet complex program as the aircraft is configured out of the .air file rather than an aircraft folder as fs9 is. Good luck.

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Reply #4 - Mar 7^th, 2010 at 5:59pm

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turbofire wrote on Mar 7^th, 2010 at 5:43pm:

FS2000 is a simple yet complex program as the aircraft is configured out of the .air file rather than an aircraft folder as fs9 is. Good luck. [img]

Not sure what you mean by that. FS2000 aircraft are configured in folders in exactly the same way as those for FS98, FS2002, FS2004 & FSX. Sounds like you've been installing old FS5 aircraft with the FSFS Converter.

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Reply #5 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 2:13pm

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Don't know if this is the best thread to respond to, or if I should start a new one. I'm not that old but I'm afraid I'm completely bamboozled by all the jargon.

Being fed-up with the slowness of FSX on my system (XP) and not being able to get FS2004 working (it failed, but I can't re-install it from either the old cds or a new set due to something called FSUIPC incompatibility) I have re-installed FS2000 and it works fine on its own, provided I don't re-install any of the hard-copy add-ons I bought for it when new; these either make it crash at the Concorde screen, or nothing shows up in the Aircraft menu.

Because of this I've tried downloading from Simviation, but there's always some incomprehensible reason why things still don't work, whichever way I turn. I thought I'd sussed it when, after unzipping, a window appeared which, among other icons, contained one that was called "Installer Package". But every time I clicked on one of those, it said the installation wouldn't work because the Air File was damaged. Simviation told me to erase Adobe Air, which I did. I was warned doing so would affect my iPlayer, but I'm pleased to report it didn't. But I'm still stumped. I no longer get the Installer Package icon at all, and everything else just asks me what program was used to create it, or words to that effect. I need step-by-step advice with an approach which, to be on the safe side, presumes no prior knowledge. Ok, I know OF folders, but that's about as far as I go. Most of the posts I've read make no sense to me, I'm a real duffer.

Any help would be so much appreciated, and maybe there are others equally clueless but are more embarrassed to ask than I am.

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Reply #6 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 3:47pm

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Nigel Warren wrote on Jul 28^th, 2010 at 2:13pm:

Don't know if this is the best thread to respond to, or if I should start a new one. I'm not that old but I'm afraid I'm completely bamboozled by all the jargon.

Because of this I've tried downloading from Simviation, but there's always some incomprehensible reason why things still don't work, whichever way I turn. I thought I'd sussed it when, after unzipping, a window appeared which, among other icons, contained one that was called "Installer Package". But every time I clicked on one of those, it said the installation wouldn't work because the Air File was damaged. Simviation told me to erase Adobe Air, which I did. I was warned doing so would affect my iPlayer, but I'm pleased to report it didn't. But I'm still stumped. I no longer get the Installer Package icon at all, and everything else just asks me what program was used to create it, or words to that effect. I need step-by-step advice with an approach which, to be on the safe side, presumes no prior knowledge. Ok, I know OF folders, but that's about as far as I go. Most of the posts I've read make no sense to me, I'm a real duffer.

Any help would be so much appreciated, and maybe there are others equally clueless but are more embarrassed to ask than I am.

Hi there. Please try following this tute first. http://www.simviation.com/acinstall.htm

If you there's anything you don't understand please post again.

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Being fed-up with the slowness of FSX on my system (XP) and not being able to get FS2004 working (it failed, but I can't re-install it from either the old cds or a new set due to something called FSUIPC incompatibility) .

I can't think why you should be having problems installing FS2004. FSUIPC is a completely separate 3rd party application which can be installed after successfully installing FS.

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I have re-installed FS2000 and it works fine on its own, provided I don't re-install any of the hard-copy add-ons I bought for it when new; these either make it crash at the Concorde screen, or nothing shows up in the Aircraft menu

It's a very long time since I had anything to do with FS2000. Have you installed the official patch? Make sure you get the right one. http://www.simviation.com/fs2000utilities_ess1.htm

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Reply #7 - Jul 28^th, 2010 at 6:11pm

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Thankyou very much Hagar (the Great, not the Horrible!) I'm not quite there yet but I already feel a bit less intimidated by all this. I have been unable to get those plus/minus list windows to come up, but I have identified the folders required (both in FS2000 and FSX) and dragged the icons across, but it still doesn't work. There is a Dash 8 100 icon sitting in the Aircraft folder of FS2000, and an XP-56 in the equivalent folder of FSX, but they still don't appear in the actual aircraft menus of the respective games. As far as FS2000 goes, I have now installed the patch you so helpfully linked for me, but it still hasn't done the trick. Perhaps there's something else I should do that's super obvious to you but unfortunately not to me.

Before I move on, do you think those boxed add-ons will now work again now that I've installed that patch? I've got enough of them that if they could work, I wouldn't be bothered about downloading files.

I was only mentioning my problem with FS2004 in passing, but as you were kind enough to pick up on it, I'd like to see if we can get to the bottom of it. I don't know what caused it to fail in the first place, but I'd have thought deleting it and all its add-ons, then re-installing from the original disks would have done the trick, but this is what comes up every time I've tried (and with a newly purchased copy of the software as well:)

"The version of FS2004 detected is not compatible with this version of FSUIPC! It is build 9.01.40901... You need the correct version of FS2004. Click the help-about: the build should be 9.00.30612"

Now I'd never heard of FSUIPC until this happened, so I've certainly not knowingly installed it. I assume it's sneaked into my system as part of something else I've installed. With my slightly increased confidence that you've given me, I've tried to find it in my system, so as to delete it, but it wasn't under Add/Remove programs, and I don't really know what it is, so I have no idea where to find it. Any ideas?

Sorry to latch on to you as it were, but you seem to be an expert and I feel you've thrown me a rope to stop me drowning. Many thanks so far

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Reply #8 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 3:37am

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Hi Nigel. It would help to know which OS (version of Windows) you're using. Also which version of FS2000 - Standard or Pro. Before going any further you might like to read my Windows Basics & Working with Windows articles & set your Folder Options like mine. http://www.simviation.com/lair/Windows%20Basics.htm

Freeware addons are all configured differently depending on the preferences & experience of the people who configured them. Unfortunately there is no standard template for configuring the files. They will also vary depending on your OS & the utilities & method you use for extracting zipfiles. The important thing is to understand what you're looking for. This gets easier with practice.

One common cause of aircraft installation problems in all versions of MSFS is that the actual folder containing the aircraft is hidden inside one or more folders. If this is the case FS can't find them & they cannot possibly work. If you give me examples of aircraft you've tried to install (for example; that FS2000 Dash 8 100) & tell me exactly where to find them I can download the files & check them out for you. I need the file name/description & the page they're posted on.

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I was only mentioning my problem with FS2004 in passing, but as you were kind enough to pick up on it, I'd like to see if we can get to the bottom of it. I don't know what caused it to fail in the first place, but I'd have thought deleting it and all its add-ons, then re-installing from the original disks would have done the trick, but this is what comes up every time I've tried (and with a newly purchased copy of the software as well

It's not a good idea to simply delete software like MSFS. Always use the Uninstall option either from the CD or the Windows Add/Remove Programs feature. For a full uninstall of FS2004 manually delete any remaining files/folders after Uninstall is complete & before attempting a fresh Install. If you've ever successfully installed & run FS2004 there will be associated files like FS9.cfg outside the Flight Simulator 9 root directory which will not be removed by the Uninstall feature.

I really don't understand the connection with FSUIPC & your problems installing FS2004, especially if you've never managed to install FS2004. From that error message it looks like both FS2004 & an early version of FSUIPC are already installed on your system & your problem is with running FS2004, not installing it. The logical solution is to remove the offending FSUIPC. You might like to do a search of your C: drive for FSUIPC.DLL. If you find any examples of this file delete them. Then try running FS2004 again.

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Before I move on, do you think those boxed add-ons will now work again now that I've installed that patch? I've got enough of them that if they could work, I wouldn't be bothered about downloading files.

That was the main reason I suggested installing the patch. The only way to find out is to try them. I assume these addons are for FS2000. Boxed addons will generally only work properly in the version of FS they're intended for. There's no point in trying to install an FS2000 addon to FS2004 or FSX.

PS. I've tried Piglet's XP-56 in FSX & it works fine. http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?ID=66&page=1&mark=425

To install it first extract 1xp-562.zip to a Temp folder. Then open the extracted folder & look for a folder named XP-56 & a file named xp56.cab. Paste the XP-56 folder to your FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes folder & xp56.cab into your FSX\Gauges folder. Then fire up FSX. The new aircraft will be listed on the selection menu under Northrop.

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Reply #9 - Jul 29^th, 2010 at 5:19pm

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Just some added info with hopes I don't cause further confusion; although I don't have FS2k, I do have FS8 and have finally given in to installing FS9 on my 2nd, older but larger, OS98 formatted hard drive. All of my added aircraft were operable in CFS2 and most are from CFS1; I've redone the aircraft.cfg for these to make them more compatible with FS8/FS9 and even chose not to inactivate the unsupported functions (guns aren't going to be activated, anyway, with no controls to set for them).
However, in some cases a texture is not being accessed and it seems due to the older mdl. In a number of cases the air file wasn't compatible and I had to 'borrow' and edit a new one. The question here, since I can't see what you have, is what FS were the add-ons for?

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