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July 20, 1969 - The First Manned Moon Landing (Read 7329 times)
Jul 20
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I'm surprised that this hasn't been posted yet...so I'll do the honors. Today is the 39th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing. One July 20, 1969, Neil Armstrong became the first man to walk on the moon followed by his LM Pilot Buzz Aldrin who became the second when they stepped out onto the surface at the Sea of Tranquility.
This was the first of 6 highly successful manned moon landings.
One unfortunate truth about Apollo 11, no still photograph was taken of Neil Armstrong walking on the moon. Every photo taken during the mission that was focused on an astronaut was taken of Buzz (by Neil). However, one photo that Buzz took did have Neil in the corner with his back the camera. That's the only photo of Neil standing on the moon. Here is that photo:
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That one photo would be good enough for me as far as personal memories, but man I would be pissed if I got all the way to the moon and no one got any shots of me, I imagine they had plenty of other things on their mind up there though haha, wow what an experience that had to be
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Nice clear px; no atmospheric distortions, the flag unfurled in the breeze...
unfurled in the breeze!!
Well, it was a long flight... did they use duct tape to seal up the seat of Buzz's suit?
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Thanks for the reminder. There was a brief mention of this on the news the other day. I guess there'll be more attention to that rather enormous event next year at the 40 mark. Interesting timing at the blast off, it was exactly at the start of a final exam at U of Miami, the prof turned on the radio and we all heard the go. Well, those were the days. Some of them, anyway.
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BigTruck wrote
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That one photo would be good enough for me as far as personal memories, but man I would be pissed if I got all the way to the moon and no one got any shots of me, I imagine they had plenty of other things on their mind up there though haha, wow what an experience that had to be
Yeah, there is actually a lot of controversy over the lack of Armstrong photos. Some believe that Aldrin, who did appear quite bitter over not being the first man to step on the surface, did it intentionally. I personally don't believe that but some do. I hope that he was just so busy (and Armstrong did have the camera more than Aldrin) that he just didn't think of it during the 2.5 hours they were out there.
But, my statement about the "only" photo isn't quite true. There are a couple others where part of Neil's backpack...or an arm is visible in the corner or something like that. But, the only other photo of Neil that was taken while they were walking on the surface was this one...which was terribly underexposed. Had it turned out, it would have been a very nice image. It was years until someone noticed that Armstrong was even in the photo. Apollo historian and author Andrew Chaikin noticed him in the photo several decades after it was actually taken. Armstrong is in the lower left hand corner of the image (easiest to spot thanks to his gold visor).
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Isn't there a picture of Neil Armstrong saluting the flag? By the way, that isn't the flag unfurled by the breeze. There was a pole that went across the top of the flag to hold it up, as well as the big pole.
Edit: Yep here it is. You can see that pole I was talking about:
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my question is why would the government launch a multi millon dollar rocket into space make all that fake footage and drop a module from the upper atmosphere into the ocean with poeple in it when thye could just go to the moon =\
anyways there beautiful pics
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Dr.bob7 wrote
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, 2008 at 10:40pm:
my question is why would the government launch a multi millon dollar rocket into space make all that fake footage and drop a module from the upper atmosphere into the ocean with poeple in it when thy could just go to the moon =\
anyways there beautiful pics
...'cos it was much cheaper to film it in the Nevada Desert....
..after all, Nevada isn't very far from Hollywood...and it always looks very "Moonish" at night...
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Aug 5
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Fozzer wrote
on Aug 5
th
, 2008 at 10:25am:
Dr.bob7 wrote
on Aug 4
th
, 2008 at 10:40pm:
my question is why would the government launch a multi millon dollar rocket into space make all that fake footage and drop a module from the upper atmosphere into the ocean with poeple in it when thy could just go to the moon =\
anyways there beautiful pics
...'cos it was much cheaper to film it in the Nevada Desert....
..after all, Nevada isn't very far from Hollywood...and it always looks very "Moonish" at night...
...!
Paul....
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Are you implying that they didn't land on Luna?
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Are you implying that they didn't land on Luna?
...the other side of the Flag says:
"Welcome to Nevada. Please drive carefully"
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Fozzer wrote
on Aug 5
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, 2008 at 11:50am:
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Are you implying that they didn't land on Luna?
...the other side of the Flag says:
"Welcome to Nevada. Please drive carefully"
Paul...
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In the 2 pictures in this thread that include flags, you get to see both sides. Neither of which say Welcome to Nevada.
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Fozzer wrote
on Aug 5
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Quote:
Are you implying that they didn't land on Luna?
...the other side of the Flag says:
"Welcome to Nevada. Please drive carefully"
Paul...
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In the 2 pictures in this thread that include flags, you get to see both sides. Neither of which say Welcome to Nevada.
...obviously the wind has blown it round to face the other way...
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...one of those Nevada dust storms?...
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Aug 5
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Fozzer wrote
on Aug 5
th
, 2008 at 1:42pm:
Quote:
Fozzer wrote
on Aug 5
th
, 2008 at 11:50am:
Quote:
Are you implying that they didn't land on Luna?
...the other side of the Flag says:
"Welcome to Nevada. Please drive carefully"
Paul...
...
...
...!
In the 2 pictures in this thread that include flags, you get to see both sides. Neither of which say Welcome to Nevada.
...obviously the wind has blown it round to face the other way...
...!
...one of those Nevada dust storms?...
...!
Paul...
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Oh come on you- You know we could argue about this all day and nothing would change. Just give one good solid reason why the landings were faked.
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Aug 6
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YES Darrnm it ! ,the man went to the moon ,is easy ,READ STUDY PHISICS and see ,stop screwing this great moment in history ,WOULD BE MORE EXPENCIVE TO MAKE SUCH OF A BIG LIE AND KEEP IT TO THE MAN KIND, I really hate everytime I see things like this , Is like the Other tale
No It wasn't a plane to hit the pentagon was a missile
why you have to make thing so complicated?
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I aint American ,But Only God knows how much I admire and luv that country for things like this ,I mean for the landing on the moon in 1969, I was 5 years old ,and my whole family gather in front of the TV and saw it ,I remember it very clear ,in my southamerican country ...
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Keep your hair on Alex.
We've discussed this subject on this forum many times before. History records that Man walked on the Moon on July 20, 1969. To be honest it doesn't really matter now whether it was faked or not. The important thing is that the object of the exercise was achieved. You have to appreciate the political situation of the time to understand the implications of failure.
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Aug 6
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The man step on the Moon Period.....!
and if any of you will ask why there aren't stars on the photo ,its because to take a shot in environment without atmosphere in an ultra white enviroment you need at least to close the diaphragm to less that 2mm other wise you would be burn the film tape ,Is the same reason you can't see the face of the astronauts for the special Kevlar filter
If you see with your naked eye the surface of the moon with the sun above you ,you would instantly get blind.
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and if any of you will ask why there aren't stars on the photo ,its because to take a shot in environment without atmosphere in an ultra white enviroment you need at least to close the diaphragm to less that 2mm other wise you would be burn the film tape ,Is the same reason you can't see the face of the astronauts for the special Kevlar filter
Yes Alex. We've seen all the arguments from both sides many times before. If it's true the proof is still up there somewhere.
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If it's true the proof is still up there somewhere.
If ?
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Brett_Henderson wrote
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If it's true the proof is still up there somewhere.
If ?
I've always been sceptical that what we saw on TV was real. That was long before the popular conspiracy theories were published. However, the mission was being carefully monitored by scientists all over the World including the USSR. They obviously believed it so who am I to argue? As I said before, it's not important now.
Don't kid yourselves that this involved scientific exploration. It was a political exercise, plain & simple.
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Hagar wrote
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Brett_Henderson wrote
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If it's true the proof is still up there somewhere.
If ?
I've always been sceptical that what we saw on TV was real. That was long before the popular conspiracy theories were published. However, the mission was being carefully monitored by scientists all over the World including the USSR. They obviously believed it so who am I to argue? As I said before, it's not important now.
Don't kid yourselves that this involved scientific exploration. It was a political exercise, plain & simple.
Well.. yeah.. it is important. It's history... pretty significant history. When we start thinking history is not important... we all know where that ends up.
There was definately a political statement, but there are 1,000 ways to make those. The political gain was more a productive by-product of learning, and puting into practice, getting big things off of this planet.. in/out of the gravitational field; in/out of another field; extra-vehicular activity, and then back down on terra-firma (with people on board no less).
HUGE learning curves conquered.. from physics to propulsion to life-support.
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I'm not in the mood to go over all this again. If you want to see a long & informed discussion on the subject search the forum records.
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If you want to see a long & informed discussion on the subject search the forum records.
I'm a 49 year old, aviation oriented American, with an engineering background.. I've beat this horse many-a-time, over many-a-year. I normally stay out of discussions like this.. I had a lapse this morning
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well is important ,we now know for sure 100% that the moon was shape by a huge impact of an object of 6.000Km diameter make a proto ring first made of dust due for the impact and due to the low gravitation of the earth this ring became an object ,and object of 3.476Km of diameter name Moon, I'm glad to know this ,that we have more than 1.000 of moon rocks and dust brought it from there..
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Alejandro Rhodes wrote
on Aug 6
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YES Darrnm it ! ,the man went to the moon ,is easy ,READ STUDY PHISICS and see ,stop screwing this great moment in history ,WOULD BE MORE EXPENCIVE TO MAKE SUCH OF A BIG LIE AND KEEP IT TO THE MAN KIND, I really hate everytime I see things like this , Is like the Other tale
No It wasn't a plane to hit the pentagon was a missile
why you have to make thing so complicated?
JeZZ!
I aint American ,But Only God knows how much I admire and luv that country for things like this ,I mean for the landing on the moon in 1969, I was 5 years old ,and my whole family gather in front of the TV and saw it ,I remember it very clear ,in my southamerican country ...
aaaand for to be the reason why the 2nd world war finish and why we all aren't japanesse or German ...nessee
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I think we should all chip in and buy Alrot a passport a moving van and a nice apartment her ein the US
glad to see you think the moon landing and 911 consprices are crap, some people just have to complicate things
*cough* Fozzer *cough*
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Agreed upon or not, we have a set date for a manned moon landing...
now, can we come up with the specific date for the first land mooning?
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This has been locked before, got to like 24 pages...
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Im with Hagar on this, I dont think this needs to be gone over again
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And belive it or not It'll be 105 years 17 Dec. When two Bros named Wright got this whole thing started. 66 years later man was on the moon. What an amazing feat of history to witness!
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Hagar wrote
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and if any of you will ask why there aren't stars on the photo ,its because to take a shot in environment without atmosphere in an ultra white enviroment you need at least to close the diaphragm to less that 2mm other wise you would be burn the film tape ,Is the same reason you can't see the face of the astronauts for the special Kevlar filter
Yes Alex. We've seen all the arguments from both sides many times before. If it's true the proof is still up there somewhere.
I normally steer clear of this topic, but i'm bored, so i'll drop a thought in here regarding the possibility that all of the successful Apollo missions were faked to avoid the political effects of failure:
When the Apollo I crew was roasted alive on the pad during a pad-test accident, not only did NASA reveal this information to the
world
press the following day, Grissom, White and Chaffee made the cover of the next issue of
Life
, which featured a full story on the accident. The official report was released about a year later, only because every tiny detail had to be covered. there was never any attempt to cover up the tragedy or the shortcomings of the program.
Even if all NASA cared about was "claiming" the Moon before the soviets did, it was actually a more useful propoganda move to make martyrs of these three astronauts, and harden the resolve of evryone involved to try harder. Covering it up would have been far more difficult, and it wouldn't have produced the galvanizing effect that the truth did.
When Apollo 13 was in trouble, the world was allowed to know almost immediately. NASA did not wait until they were either home safe or lost- keeping the entire world on tenterhooks was actually a brilliant publicity move; much smarter than the smothering secrecy of the Soviet space program. Had the crew of Apollo 13 died out there, there would not have been a fake landing broadcast; I'm pretty convinced of that.
As it turned out, despite the ridiculous cause of 13's problems, the recovery of that flight was probably the most brilliant space enterprise ever; more amazing, in a way, than landing on the moon and returning safely. Flight Director Gene Kranz once said that he was most proud of that mission, problems and all.
Of course, the conspiracy buffs might very well claim that Apollo I was sacrificed intentionally for propoganda purposes, and the Apollo 13 near-disaster was also a hoax... this refusal to accept
any
evidence of the veracity of the mission reports is like a sort of cult mythology; reason cannot prevail against it.
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beaky wrote
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Hagar wrote
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and if any of you will ask why there aren't stars on the photo ,its because to take a shot in environment without atmosphere in an ultra white enviroment you need at least to close the diaphragm to less that 2mm other wise you would be burn the film tape ,Is the same reason you can't see the face of the astronauts for the special Kevlar filter
Yes Alex. We've seen all the arguments from both sides many times before. If it's true the proof is still up there somewhere.
I normally steer clear of this topic, but i'm bored, so i'll drop a thought in here regarding the possibility that all of the successful Apollo missions were faked to avoid the political effects of failure:
I'm a tad bored too.
If you've read any of my previous opinions on this subject you will know that I've only ever mentioned the Apollo 11 mission, not ALL the successful missions. Even then, I was suggesting that the film of the actual lunar landing could have been faked, not the whole mission. Us TV viewers would have been none the wiser. Note I never said they did not land, simply that the film we saw of the landing was not what was actually happening up there on the Moon.
My old friend Richie who posted this topic knows more on the history of space exploration than anyone I've ever met. If anyone deserves to be an astronaut it's him & I hope he achieves his ambitions one day. He agrees with me that this would not only have been possible but would have been done if it had been considered necessary. The stakes were too high to fail. You have to appreciate the political situation at the time to fully understand how important this was, not only to America but the whole Western world.
That's all I wish to say here but I wanted to put the matter straight. I'm only responding now as you quoted my earlier comment. If you wish to see the full discussion it's easy enough to find in the forum archives. In fact I rather enjoyed reading it all again.
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The Mythbusters are going to be tackling this disscusion soon. I can't wait for it.
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I havent read the previous topic on this, but im going to add my thoughts anyway
Hopefully soon they will go back, and hopefully they will prove without doubt that it wasnt faked. Wether that be photos or actual equipment left from all the landings thats brought back to earth or what, i dont know.
Ive read a lot on the various hoax theories, and came to the conclusion that most are widly,utterly and completly mad, most are proved wrong, and only one or two could mabye be genuine.
Ive also read, watched, and looked at loads of stuff on the Apollo programme as a whole, and Mercury, and the Gemini programmes before them. Its fascinating stuff, and i wish i could remember the name of a book i read that was as thick as two bricks that dealt with the apollo programme which was a book i couldnt put down, but i cant.
I can understand the reasoning behind faking 11, and carrying out the other missions in full, for real - i think anyway!
I still think that it happened as was broadcast though. If it was faked, other countries monitoring the final stage of the launch vehicle,(which usualy impacted with the moon, and registerd on equipment left from earlier landings in the case of later missions) and the spacecraft themselves, would have surely blown the whistle.
It would be too good for the russians NOT to proclaim the americans had faked it, imagine the scenes if they had done given the climate at the time!
Unless 11 just orbited the moon, without actualy landing. But if you go all that way, why just not the hell land?
Apollo 8 came close to the lunar surface, but had no lander, and Apollo 10's lander came within about 8 miles of the lunar surface. Why do all this then fake 11?
When Nasa do go back, hopefully we will then really know!
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Okay, I'm about to end this debate right here, right now. On Wedensday night, the Mythbusters episode premiered, and I have some videos for you guys. Listen up in the back there Fozzer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wym04J_3Ls0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtWMz51eL0Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5taIxlNA_Lw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBCfuKs9i8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE4w2MIYhC4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmVxSFnjYCA&feature=related
Well there you go. What do you have to say to that Fozzer, especially the last video?
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I'm not a fan of Mythbusters (I think they're annoying dorks) but I went out of my way to watch this one. I was never a hoax believer but if I were ...
Unparallel shadows - Completely convinced
Light in shadow - Completely convinced
Footprints in powder and 1/6 G "hop" - They can't completely duplicate these on Earth but NASA could not have predicted these effects based on Earthbound observations. Mostly convinced.
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WebbPA wrote
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I'm not a fan of Mythbusters (I think they're annoying dorks) but I went out of my way to watch this one. I was never a hoax believer but if I were ...
Unparallel shadows - Completely convinced
Light in shadow - Completely convinced
Footprints in powder and 1/6 G "hop" - They can't completely duplicate these on Earth but NASA could not have predicted these effects based on Earthbound observations. Mostly convinced.
You don't have to like them to agree with their results. That last video with the retroreflectors is indisputable evidence that we went to the moon.
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You don't have to like them to agree with their results. That last video with the retroreflectors is indisputable evidence that we went to the moon.
I forgot about that one.
But the hoaxers are
so
convinced that if the UN commissioned an independent fleet to land at every Apollo landing site, and if that commission came back with photos and artifacts and eyewitness testimony, they would claim that the UN commission was a hoax. We can't win!
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WebbPA wrote
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You don't have to like them to agree with their results. That last video with the retroreflectors is indisputable evidence that we went to the moon.
I forgot about that one.
But the hoaxers are
so
convinced that if the UN commissioned an independent fleet to land at every Apollo landing site, and if that commission came back with photos and artifacts and eyewitness testimony, they would claim that the UN commission was a hoax. We can't win!
There will always be doubters. Here's my idea. In NASA's upcoming Constellation Program to return to the moon by 2020, they should send a consirator as a passenger. That would clear up most of the conspiracies.
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No comment Fozzer?
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There will always be doubters. Here's my idea. In NASA's upcoming Constellation Program to return to the moon by 2020, they should send a conspirator as a passenger. That would clear up most of the conspiracies.
...No comment Fozzer?
Your contemplating stranding Fozzer on...
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WebbPA wrote
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You don't have to like them to agree with their results. That last video with the retroreflectors is indisputable evidence that we went to the moon.
I forgot about that one.
But the hoaxers are
so
convinced that if the UN commissioned an independent fleet to land at every Apollo landing site, and if that commission came back with photos and artifacts and eyewitness testimony, they would claim that the UN commission was a hoax. We can't win!
That or the UN took all the "old props", placed them about and then took the pictures
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NASA to Take Photos of Lunar Landing Sites, End Conspiracy Theories
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NASA has confirmed to Gizmodo that the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter will take photos of all the Apollo landing sites:
Jesus Diaz: Would the LRO return images of the moon landings when it flies over them?
Grey Hautaluoma (NASA Headquarters, Office of Public Affairs): Yes, it will. We don't have a timeline yet for viewing the Apollo sites, but it will be in the near future.
It won't end the conspiracy theories, because the new photos will be fakes. A circle has no end.
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No comment Fozzer?
Oooppss....Sorry!...Space Time-Lag!...
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Fantastic Videos!...
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Such a laugh listening to all those comical Red Neck voices....
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..and as always...
...giving me/us the opportunity to wind you up, and pull your tiny little Plonker, concerning Manned Space Travel, and the Moon Landing Conspiracies....
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Fozzer wrote
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Quote:
No comment Fozzer?
Oooppss....Sorry!...Space Time-Lag!...
...
Fantastic Videos!...
...!
Such a laugh listening to all those comical Red Neck voices....
...
..and as always...
...giving me/us the opportunity to wind you up, and pull your tiny little Plonker, concerning Manned Space Travel, and the Moon Landing Conspiracies....
...
...
...!
Its something we love doing, to extract the Urine, and have a laugh at the same time!...
...!
Paul...now where did I put that Coat Hanger?... and that Star-Spangled Banner?...there must be somewhere else we can stick it?...
...
...
...
...!
...we love it down here, amongst our fellow Earthlings!...
...
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...!
A recent flight over the Nevada Desert...>>>>
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1246988725
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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html
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Whoopi Is As Dumb As She Looks
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Forty years ago today, as he became the first man to ever walk on the Moon, Neil Armstrong uttered some of the most famous words ever spoken. “This is one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” Today, on the anniversary of that quote and accomplishment, Whoopi Goldberg showed that she is as smart as she looks, by stating she questioned whether the moon landing was real or staged.
There have always been people who believed the landing was a hoax, but very few have ever been dumb enough to admit this on national television. Among her more intelligent remarks were “if it was real, who was taking the pictures?” and “why does the flag have ripples, if there’s no wind?” Also, in a crazy twist, Barbara Walters (pronounced “Bah-wah Wah-wah) served as the voice of reason in this exchange. She pointed out that there have been 5 moon landings, total *, so even if that one was staged, there were 4 other landings.
Good timing, Whoopi, 3 days after pictures of the landers were published.
(* In fact there were 6 manned moon landings, not 5.)
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Hagar wrote
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To be honest it doesn't really matter now whether it was faked or not. The important thing is that the object of the exercise was achieved. You have to appreciate the political situation of the time to understand the implications of failure.
And the implications of 40 years of Lies being told as truth?
or am I taking your post out of context Doug?
Anyway, for what its worth, I'm a believer....
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4_Series_Scania wrote
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And the implications of 40 years of Lies being told as truth?
That wouldn't be unique by any stretch of the imagination. Politicians tell lies all the time. That's what they do.
At least there were valid reasons for going to the Moon in the 60s. Can someone please give me one good reason for going back there now.
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Hagar wrote
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At least there were valid reasons for going to the Moon in the 60s. Can someone please give me one good reason for going back there now.
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I'm surprised that this hasn't been posted yet
What happened last time, 34 Pages and a locked thread
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Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed.
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I believe it happened but the only part that has me wondering is something I didn't know about before. About 500 miles out to space out to about 50,000 miles is some extremely high radiation. I'm just curious know how we were able to shield ourselves from it?
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NASA knew about Van Allen Belt radiation.
It is not a fatal radiation zone.
NASA shielded spacecraft and avoided the Van Allen Belt.
More
here
but I'm not going to swear by it.
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The Van Allen belts are full of deadly radiation, and anyone passing through them would be fried.
Needless to say this is a very simplistic statement. Yes, there is deadly radiation in the Van Allen belts, but the nature of that radiation was known to the Apollo engineers and they were able to make suitable preparations. The principle danger of the Van Allen belts is high-energy protons, which are not that difficult to shield against. And the Apollo navigators plotted a course through the thinnest parts of the belts and arranged for the spacecraft to pass through them quickly, limiting the exposure.
The Van Allen belts span only about forty degrees of earth's latitude -- twenty degrees above and below the magnetic equator. The diagrams of Apollo's translunar trajectory printed in various press releases are not entirely accurate. They tend to show only a two-dimensional version of the actual trajectory. The actual trajectory was three-dimensional. The highly technical reports of Apollo, accessible to but not generally understood by the public, give the three-dimensional details of the translunar trajectory.
Each mission flew a slightly different trajectory in order to access its landing site, but the orbital inclination of the translunar coast trajectory was always in the neighborhood of 30°. Stated another way, the geometric plane containing the translunar trajectory was inclined to the earth's equator by about 30°. A spacecraft following that trajectory would bypass all but the edges of the Van Allen belts.
This is not to dispute that passage through the Van Allen belts would be dangerous. But NASA conducted a series of experiments designed to investigate the nature of the Van Allen belts, culminating in the repeated traversal of the Southern Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly (an intense, low-hanging patch of Van Allen belt) by the Gemini 10 astronauts.
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Thanks Webb. That helped me understand a lot more!
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well I'm glad somebody else has posted recently on this, I've always believed they went.
The Life magazine mentioned in this thread? I have that copy.
NASA helped me when at college and i've always belived in them.
Photos taken in space of the landing sites show the bottom half of the lander and the equipment and rovers they left behind, and the tracks made.
May the Mynd be with you.
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