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Jan 9th, 2008 at 11:18am

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Just an idea... IMO it would be good to increase the 'weight' limit in the photo section to 1mb or more (for example). Keeping the 100kb limit on pictures but then increasing the amount you can post means that there won't be as many parts and the forum will be less cluttered. Also, after a major airshow such as RIAT where numerous members go there is often many different parts meaning that only some get feedback/views. I think the 500kb limit in the screenshot forum (apart from StudioV?) should stay as this means that only the best screenshots will get posted.

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Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 12:22pm

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Not as 500Kb , But at least 200kb
 

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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 12:38pm

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excellent idea...but I have a feeling it's been suggested before

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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 1:01pm

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Mictheslik wrote on Jan 9th, 2008 at 12:38pm:
excellent idea...but I have a feeling it's been suggested before

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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 1:02pm

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The 100kb limit per image and the 500 max per thread are so that those who are not on broadband can still enjoy the forums (and there are quite a few non-broadband regulars around) Wink
So I don't think it'll change anytime soon!
 

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Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 1:08pm

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Fair enough, but bear in mind I was only suggesting this for the photo forum.  Wink Smiley
 
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Reply #6 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 1:28pm

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Then the photo forum would have been impossibly slow for non-broadband users. The 100/500 limit seems to be the best balance we can achieve.
This is why I hate people who link images 'cos it brings my machine to a screaming halt Roll Eyes Angry
 

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Reply #7 - Jan 9th, 2008 at 2:47pm

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ozzy72 wrote on Jan 9th, 2008 at 1:28pm:
Then the photo forum would have been impossibly slow for non-broadband users. The 100/500 limit seems to be the best balance we can achieve.
This is why I hate people who link images 'cos it brings my machine to a screaming halt Roll Eyes Angry


Ok, fair enough.  Wink
 
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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 4:03pm

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I wonder...What difference will it make if the bar was upped to 110KB? Does 10KB make a world of a difference? Don't get me wrong, I'm just curious Undecided
 

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Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 4:06pm

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Well there has to be a limit & 100 is a nice round figure. Smiley
 

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Reply #10 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 5:11pm

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Scene as the Limit is 500kb why cant there be Shots over 100kb? if you have 5 100kb photos its not going to take that long to load 2 200kb shots or 1 500kb Shots  Huh
 

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Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 6:07pm
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Tom... wrote on Jan 10th, 2008 at 5:11pm:
Scene as the Limit is 500kb why cant there be Shots over 100kb? if you have 5 100kb photos its not going to take that long to load 2 200kb shots or 1 500kb Shots  Huh


Don't forget it's not just about viewing shots, uploading has to be taken into consideration too... the upload page would be at a crawl if you were on 56k dial up and had to upload a 500kb file.
100kb may take time to upload but is 5 times quicker than 500kb (obviously).  Wink
 
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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 6:15pm

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Don't forget it's not just about viewing shots, uploading has to be taken into consideration too... the upload page would be at a crawl if you were on 56k dial up and had to upload a 500kb file.
100kb may take time to upload but is 5 times quicker than 500kb (obviously).  Wink


Trust me, i'm not going to upload a 500kb image on slow dialup even if the forum rules would allow. I'm gonna shrink, crop, tweak, & compress the heck out of it... Grin
 
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Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 6:18pm
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BFMF wrote on Jan 10th, 2008 at 6:15pm:
Trust me, i'm not going to upload a 500kb image on slow dialup even if the forum rules would allow. I'm gonna shrink, crop, tweak, & compress the heck out of it... Grin


My point exactly  Wink
 
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Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2008 at 6:54pm

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& what's the point of going over 100KB? Remember that some of the greatest shots we've ever seens here have been 70K!


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Reply #15 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:30am

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Of course the finest image on the site is only 2.08kb...
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Reply #16 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 3:21pm

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And the scariest one weighs in at 2.99KB

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Reply #17 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 4:31pm
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ozzy72 wrote on Jan 9th, 2008 at 1:02pm:
The 100kb limit per image and the 500 max per thread are so that those who are not on broadband can still enjoy the forums (and there are quite a few non-broadband regulars around) Wink
So I don't think it'll change anytime soon!


500 kB limit?

[Cough]Click here[/Cough]

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Reply #18 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 4:42pm

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Quote:
ozzy72 wrote on Jan 9th, 2008 at 1:02pm:
The 100kb limit per image and the 500 max per thread are so that those who are not on broadband can still enjoy the forums (and there are quite a few non-broadband regulars around) Wink
So I don't think it'll change anytime soon!


500 kB limit?

[Cough]Click here[/Cough]

Crash Wink


I just dropped a line to a Mod on that very topic...Total weight of all the images is some where above 600KB... Undecided
 

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Reply #19 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:07pm

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I would like to see the size and the weight increased. A 150K shot can be displayed in all its glory at 1024x768 x 150KB

the 800x600 limit, especially with a wide screen which has a ratio which makes cropping to 800 wide, 500 high which means the shots end up smaller on one end.

800x500 or even 800x600 on modern screens is small. On a decent wide screen its very tiny and much of the detail is lost.




 
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Reply #20 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:26pm

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NickN wrote on Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:07pm:
I would like to see the size and the weight increased. A 150K shot can be displayed in all its glory at 1024x768 x 150KB

the 800x600 limit, especially with a wide screen which has a ratio which makes cropping to 800 wide, 500 high which means the shots end up smaller on one end.

800x500 or even 800x600 on modern screens is small. On a decent wide screen its very tiny and much of the detail is lost.







I agree. 150k isn't all that bad.
 

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Reply #21 - Jan 11th, 2008 at 9:33pm

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On a modern wide screen which many people use now, the ratio at 1024 produces a 640 high image. So 150Kb covers both the wide screen people and the 4:3 ratio people

150 is tight but it can be done and with about the same amount of loss as 100Kb at 800x600

More details can be seen. Many times I had to eliminate parts of a shot or discard an image because I knew after it was reduced you would not see the detail or it would lose its feeling.


Case in point, this image

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/2008-1-9_22-30-35-282.jpg

which at 1024x640 did not require cropping to show the plane closer and it allowed the feeling of being in a huge valley (you could see it all) come out with the plane large enough to work in the shot.

Raising the thread weight to 600K allows 4 shots @ 1024x768 x150K or 5 if you can get them under 120 which is possible depending on the color detail in the image.

So uping the threads to 600 and the weight to 150 will allow for technical progress which has been around for some time and with the thread weight limit will still address those on slower connections because 100K added in this day and age is not that much.



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Reply #22 - Jan 13th, 2008 at 9:11am
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I've just taken to using thumbnails now. It's bloody annoying to set up, adding all the code into the post, and having to upload two sets of shots to two different places, but I'd rather not have to compress my photos so much (sometimes not a problem, but when there's extra detail in the shot it starts to noticeably lose quality) and create 50 different threads because I've visited an airshow.

Most people seem to get along fine at other forums, where theres no serious limit on file size, or where linking to other sites is allowed, but nevermind...
 
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Reply #23 - Jan 14th, 2008 at 6:33pm

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I thought about that one myself awhile back as far as the weight limit. I'm content with the rules as is but always wondered........ What about one 500kb shot. Not something you would use everyday I am sure. But what if there's that one shot out there you really like and as close as you can get it in the compression is say 78-82%, thus ruining it. But instead of 5 100kb (or as close as you can get compression wise) shots you end up with one georgeous 500kb shot. If it were allowed say for the screenshot contest and edited screenshots only?

I have only violated the rules once when I first started screnshot taking................I feel as though another marmalade attack is comming to get me for my opinion on this matter Lips Sealed. Better make like the wind lest I get sticky Grin



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Reply #24 - Jan 15th, 2008 at 7:05am

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I'd rather not have to compress my photos so much (sometimes not a problem, but when there's extra detail in the shot it starts to noticeably lose quality) and create 50 different threads because I've visited an airshow.


Thats what I was getting at... the 200 threads that will inevitably spring up a few days after RIAT!  Grin I might have to go down the thumbnail route myself.
 
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