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The lows and highs, machineman9's tip (Read 3112 times)

Jul 8^th, 2006 at 5:21am

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Firstly, always load the game in the lowest detail settings and position the plane in the prefered location

and then change the detail settings to the settings optimal for your PC

then simply capture the image (i prefer print screen method) and post your entry, if it is a competition entry, or just a random picture you want to show off

enjoy!

« Last Edit: Jul 8^th, 2006 at 12:05pm by machineman9 »

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Reply #1 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 11:40am

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always try and get the most out of your settings, for maximum reality (if you can) Fs-GS is good for this, although takes time to prepare, so i didnt use it in these shots

FS-GS? Are you sure you are talking about FS-FS and not something else? Cause if you did get the FS-GS service, I hope you didnt change your settings.

Just maxing out all your settings is NOT the best way to get quality. If your computer cant handle max, then it cant handle it and you wont get very good screenshots. I NEVER take screenshots with settings maxed out. Try to find what settings work best for YOUR computer, thats part of what FS-GS teaches you. One major setting to learn is to lock your framerates. Depending on your machine, you have to lock framerates to get good quality. For instance, mine are locked at 33, and this allows my computer to produce better graphics and thus better screenshots.

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Reply #2 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 12:04pm

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FS-GS is Flight Sim Graphics Solutions (i think) kk i will change it to the best settings for your PC

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Reply #3 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 2:02pm

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JakeMaster's right.
There's no point in maxing out your sim, otherwise your rig is spending all its time trying to reach 'targets' set it so something that it can handle, and your quality will improve alot.
My FPS are set to 35, even though my sim could reach 50, so that is can 'concentrate' on other things.
LOL...

Cheers,
Alex

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Reply #4 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 2:08pm

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I never change any settings for screenshots...

...and I kept my FPS locked at 25, even though it'd go 75-80 without any problem. Honestly, it's Flight Sim, not DOOM...you don't need that many frames to stay alive Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 6:05pm

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maxing out is not a bad thing, the idea is set a low framerate.

also distance shouldn't be more tha 50nm, it blurrs together to the eye after that.

set cloud percentage to around 70-80 3D% realism and coverage. thats optimal if you gonna start cranking up scenery & plane settings.

AND AND AND!! if your card supports anti-ailiasing on it's own, use that, and disable FS anti-ailiasing. if not, the two conflict, and the card lets FS decide how to AA the game. especially true with ATI cards.

ramos

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Reply #6 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 6:08pm

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FS-GS is Flight Sim Graphics Solutions (i think) kk i will change it to the best settings for your PC

Yes, it is, but if you had and paid for it then you wasted your money by doing what you showed in your screenshots

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Reply #7 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 6:57pm

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Yes, it is, but if you had and paid for it then you wasted your money by doing what you showed in your screenshots

its free lol

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Reply #8 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 11:08pm

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I dont get the point of putting your graphics all the way down, then setting them back up, just a waste of time. Also you need some bi-liniar filtering and some Anti-Ailiasing in your shot Wink

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Reply #9 - Jul 8^th, 2006 at 11:42pm

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its free lol

You clearly dont know what the FSGS service is, cause it isnt free. Do some research....

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Reply #10 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 5:57am

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You clearly dont know what the FSGS service is, cause it isnt free. Do some research....

i got it 3 days back, i pressed download and kablam! i had it

so either believe that i have it currently installed on my computer with a desktop link, or dont

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Reply #11 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 9:11am

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i got it 3 days back, i pressed download and kablam! i had it

so either believe that i have it currently installed on my computer with a desktop link, or dont

FS-GS isnt software. I think you might be thinking of FS Autostart. FS-GS is a service, you are walked through some changes to configuration files and you get your system and sim calibrated. Its something I would like to do, but I dont have the money.

Flight Simulator Graphics Solutions

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Reply #12 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 9:59am

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fair enough, now back on topic

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Reply #13 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 12:45pm

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fair enough, now back on topic

Okay, dont do what you are showing us to do. IF your computer cant perform at maximum settings, you arent going to get a quality screenshot at maximum settings. Your settings have to be set for YOUR computer, the best they can be for it. I have something to show everyone......

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Reply #14 - Jul 9^th, 2006 at 3:20pm

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yeh i know, my PC cant handle 3D clouds, even on the lowest amount of them

so thats what i mean, set the settings at the maximum which means the maximum for yourselfs

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Reply #15 - Jul 10^th, 2006 at 9:46am

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yeh i know, my PC cant handle 3D clouds, even on the lowest amount of them

so thats what i mean, set the settings at the maximum which means the maximum for yourselfs

In your post, you said set the settings to maximum, meaning full detail and sliders to the right. That will not get you a good screenshot. If your PC cant handle 3D clouds, then take screenshots in a clear sky or with a very small amount of 2D clouds. Dont push your PC beyond its limits, you lose a large amount of quality by doing that

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Reply #16 - Jul 10^th, 2006 at 1:50pm

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I dont get the point of putting your graphics all the way down, then setting them back up, just a waste of time. Also you need some bi-liniar filtering and some Anti-Ailiasing in your shot Wink

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yeh, i used triliniarly flitering (it looked better in my opinion) and the AA doesnt look any better switched off than it is switched on (it was switched on for this shot)

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Reply #17 - Jul 12^th, 2006 at 10:32am

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yeh, i used triliniarly flitering (it looked better in my opinion) and the AA doesnt look any better switched off than it is switched on (it was switched on for this shot)

Dont use FS AA, it isnt very helpful and it kills framerates. Use the AA in your graphic cards settings

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Reply #18 - Jul 12^th, 2006 at 12:59pm

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doesnt have any AA settings, well, none that i can find

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Reply #19 - Jul 12^th, 2006 at 1:43pm

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doesnt have any AA settings, well, none that i can find

So then live without AA, if it doesnt have settings that means you cant set it which means your computer cant handle it

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Reply #20 - Jul 13^th, 2006 at 5:26pm

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This has to be the strangest way to take shots and fly!

I can't fathom doing all that!

I just fire up my sim, fly the plane and take the shots....

Dave

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Reply #21 - Jul 14^th, 2006 at 1:51pm

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This has to be the strangest way to take shots and fly!

I can't fathom doing all that!

I just fire up my sim, fly the plane and take the shots....

Dave

Exactly what I do, Dave 8)

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Reply #22 - Jul 15^th, 2006 at 3:15am

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ive got an old PC and for me, it really makes taking shots easier

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Reply #23 - Jul 15^th, 2006 at 5:05pm

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This has to be the strangest way to take shots and fly!

I can't fathom doing all that!

I just fire up my sim, fly the plane and take the shots....

Dave

Yeah, we know FS-GS can do wonders. But yeah, I do the same thing.

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Reply #24 - Jul 15^th, 2006 at 5:10pm

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it takes about 5mins to load the cockpit and a further 2mins after that to load the guages and get them working whenever i play the game from full specs. and the FPS are rubbish, so for me, loading it low and switching to high settings is really helpful

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Reply #25 - Jul 16^th, 2006 at 8:07pm

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it takes about 5mins to load the cockpit and a further 2mins after that to load the guages and get them working whenever i play the game from full specs. and the FPS are rubbish, so for me, loading it low and switching to high settings is really helpful

BUT ITS NOT A GOOD TECHNIQUE! You still dont understand the point of everything Ive said, if you set it so that YOUR computer handles the best IT can you get the BEST screenshots from YOUR computer. Do I need to draw you a picture or something?

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Reply #26 - Jul 17^th, 2006 at 10:41am

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it takes about 5mins to load the cockpit and a further 2mins after that to load the guages and get them working whenever i play the game from full specs. and the FPS are rubbish, so for me, loading it low and switching to high settings is really helpful

I absolutely agree with you. When I had a weak machine I used to fly with fairly low settings (not as low as in your pic though Roll Eyes

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looks like FS 98!) and then crank them up to take a shot. Or, I flew with them high all the time 5 FPS. If I wanted to fly seriously I didn't take screenshots, and flew with everything turned down. See the first month of my screenshot gallery (my sig). Some of the first were taken with a GeForce 2 in FS2002 and they're not too bad...

Now, of course, after a lot of work and computer upgrades, I just get in and fly and things look pretty good, lucky old me, but for people stuck with a low-end comp I see nothing wrong with this technique at all. Like Jake says, you do need to avoid doing thing which over tax your computer, though. Experiment. Does the overall quality look worse with 3d clouds enabled, or can you get away with it. Etc.

My advice on your second pic - looks like maybe you over-did the mip-mapping. Set it to 4 and you might get better results. Also, change the visibility in weather manager to 20 or 30 miles. The horizon will be shrouded in mist and it should avoid the 'jagged horizon' effect you have. Other things you can try - buildings are prominent, the plane is small... so turn up scenery detail and lower plane detail. The pic would be better if the plane were bigger anyway, though. You could also try taking pictures with just sky, or just ground. Go in close on the plane and have a simple background. Use F1 view to make zooming and panning easier and get some cool angles. With plane addons with great sound/panel/VC, remove them for screenshots and just use default ones - they slow down the comp a lot. Turn off ground shadows and the plane shadow, unless you are doing a landing shot. Turn off ai unless you're doing an airport view where you want ai. Also, clear your desktop and switch off non-useful stuff in the task bar at bottom right on your screen. All these things eat performance. And defrag your hard drive, do spy and addware scans.

I'm not an expert, but I hope something from the above was helpful.

Cheers

Krigl

If you're bored of an evening - and you'll have to be - you can check out my screenshot gallery: Kriglsflightsimscreens...HERE

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Reply #27 - Jul 17^th, 2006 at 2:03pm

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@ Krigl thankyou! atlast! someone who agrees with me! (well, a lil bit) and i promise you this is FS9 cos i just unistalled FS98 (and FS9 10mins ago)
and i will take that advice, when i reinstall FS9 on my new, higher powered PC

@ Jakemaster i know exactly what you mean, and i even said i know what you mean, for most things you should set it at the maximum... but like krigl pointed out some of the things are best set slightly lower. can i please ask you to provide advice on how to sort out a problem, instead of pointing out the problem

but okies to both

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Reply #28 - Jul 17^th, 2006 at 8:38pm

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@ Jakemaster i know exactly what you mean, and i even said i know what you mean, for most things you should set it at the maximum... but like krigl pointed out some of the things are best set slightly lower. can i please ask you to provide advice on how to sort out a problem, instead of pointing out the problem

I did give you advice, but you seem to not care. I said the best way to take a good screenshot is to find the best settings for your computer. Ill say it a few more times, maybe you will finally see what I am telling you:

Find the best settings for your computer
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