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PREVIEW OF FSX (10) (Read 28770 times)
Dec 27
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FLIGHT SIMULATOR X!!!!!
In the newest issue of PC Gamer is a small preview of "Flight Simulator X", the newest Flight Simulator, and a small screenshot. It says there will be great enhancements to the graphics along with a living world with cars, trucks, ships, and wild animals!
I'll write the whole preview here later, because I have to eat right now.
yes I know, too many smilies, but I figured this warrented it...
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Dec 27
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YOU DO NOT HAVE TO EAT!! YOU WILL SURVIVE!! NOW WRITE THE PREVIEW!!!
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Dec 27
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AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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REAL WORLD man post that preview
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Dec 27
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HERE'S THE PREVIEW!!!
Sorry for the crappy quality, but it had to really be compressed.
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Dec 27
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dec 27
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releasedate: february 2006
Dont know how accurate that is, but nevertheless...sounds cool 8)
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Dec 27
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i'll need a new computer for sure
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Dec 27
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As a TV ad here in the UK says, "CALM DOWN!"
Looks impressive BUT most of our systems can berely cope with FS9, mine especialy. Sounds like many many hundreds will need to be spent to run it properly.
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Dec 27
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That's how it goes, and that's why we do what we do.
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Dec 27
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FINALLY! An FS10 thread with actual information in it! As for me, I will wait and see what it takes to run it, and probably get it later when the price begins to drop. That is unless I can upgrade my machine without too much cost.
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Dec 27
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OMG!!!! OMG!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is UNFREAKING BELIEVABLE.
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Dec 27
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It better not REQUIRE windows Vista. Its almost hinting at that.
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Dec 27
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It looks like Vista is required to take "Full Advantage" of the game.
Hope that means it will run ok on XP or XP-64.
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Dec 27
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I'll have enough credit to buy a better rig by the time FSX comes out.
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Dec 27
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Thank you so much for this info!!! I've been wondering when they would finally add an airbus to the lineup.
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Dec 28
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I've been wondering when they would finally add an airbus to the lineup.
i wouldn't get your hopes up about the default airbus
but hey maybe the default planes will be something to look foreward to this version
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Dec 28
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..mmm..sounds crap...think I'll stick with FS2000...commoner.
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Dec 28
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Frankly, I think that article is largely a load of crap!!! Strictly a ploy to sell more copies of the magazine.
There's a long standing addage that rings so true -- "Those who know can't tell and those that tell, can't know. Over time, this has ALWAYS been the case with the impending release of FS.
All the things the article claims that WILL be in FS X (?) is pure speculation -- nothing more. Take another look. Any self-respecting Journalist will refer to "sources" when describing details of that type. You'll notice there are none. And guess what? The one detail that is uppermost in the minds of everyone is noticeably absent.....WHEN will the next FS be released. They didn't dare speculate on that one -- too obvious.
In the meantime, keep checking the Microsoft FS webpages for bonafide release dates & new features lists.
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Sounds cool indeed. 8)
Thanks for posting it Mobius!
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Dec 28
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Another, and this time great, FS thread! I am slightly a tiny weeny bit suspicious though that this is a hoax as I can't find any info.
No info here:
http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/default.aspx
EDIt: Typos. Also I cannot find anything on the net anywhere not even the article. However the writer DJ Stapleton is indeed the author of the release dates for PC Gamer.
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Dec 28
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Thanks for the info Mobius.
Although i'm a bit skeptical about the realease date. Mmmmm.........Feb 2006
Anyway, better start saving for the super computer which will be required for FS9....oops.....i mean FS10
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Really nothing in that is new. Its stuff others have posted in the past just being backed up by a reputable magazine. It wouldn't surprise me if the release date was in feb as MS tend to only give a couple of months warning on their release dates instead of most companys giving a guesstimate of many months. If all of those things are true though I doubt it'll run on my computer.
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What I think is funny is that half of the people wanting the next version can't even run the current with all it's advantages.....
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minimum quoted specs for vista
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minimum quoted specs for vista
GeForce 7800
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Your joking
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Dec 28
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A Geforce 7800 is required for Windows Vista? If I remember right, the Geforce 7800 wasn't cheap. Are you sure it's required or recommended?
I know I can't shell out the money for one anytime soon
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Dec 28
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I doubt if those are the specifications. If they were they wouldn't make any profit from it and would only sell a couple of hundred copies of it. Heres some information on Vista
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1904318,00.asp
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Dec 28
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While it mentions you can "fly around the world" just like in FS2004, it says nothing about a realistic globe in which you can fly over the pole. Thus in all likelihood we're still stuck with the same old crappy cylindrical projection. So, I won't be buying, and will probabably eventually get something else altogether.
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Thus in all likelihood we're still stuck with the same old crappy cylindrical projection.
Maybe, but with many more improvements
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So, I won't be buying, and will probabably eventually get something else altogether.
Here we go again.....
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Dec 28
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Surely
, if it was going to be released in Feb'06 a Beta version would be here now? Most mags would have had a proper fly of it by now. I remember when Driv3r was due out for the PS2, there were full reviews and previews SIX months before release.
I've no doubt FSX is coming and that it'll be something special, but late 2006, in time for Xmas, is my prediction.
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Dec 28
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I see no reason why it shouldn't be released by Spring. After all they are late.
Late in terms of of the other releases as a yardstick.
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Frankly, I think that article is largely a load of crap!!! Strictly a ploy to sell more copies of the magazine.
There's a long standing addage that rings so true -- "Those who know can't tell and those that tell, can't know. Over time, this has ALWAYS been the case with the impending release of FS.
All the things the article claims that WILL be in FS X (?) is pure speculation -- nothing more. Take another look. Any self-respecting Journalist will refer to "sources" when describing details of that type. You'll notice there are none. And guess what? The one detail that is uppermost in the minds of everyone is noticeably absent.....WHEN will the next FS be released. They didn't dare speculate on that one -- too obvious.
In the meantime, keep checking the Microsoft FS webpages for bonafide release dates & new features lists.
Cal (CYXX)
Cal - some of what's in the article (namely "rivet shading" and some of the eye candy) was already "revealed" at the Avsim conference this year. The article doesn't, in my opinion, really reveal anything that MS hasn't already said, other than giving a date of Feb2006 for the release....
I *think* that's the target date for beta testing to start, but that's my "sniffing" rather than my knowing anything.
As you say, "Those who know, can't tell; and those who tell, don't know".
FS-X is coming, and will take advantage of Windows VISTA.
I wish I knew more, but if I did, I wouldn't be able to tell...
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Like I said MS never give that much notice on flight sim releases.
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MS are so weird like that - why can't they set a target date I don't know. Maybe it is so not to cause loss of sales as people say "oh I'll wait to buy hardware".
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MS are so weird like that - why can't they set a target date I don't know. Maybe it is so not to cause loss of sales as people say "oh I'll wait to buy hardware".
Because its rare computer games will make a set date. Or they are set so far in the future people will complain that its such a long wait. Then if a company cant make the date, all they hear from people is whining over how its late and that the company were lying. MS not saying anything until they are sure is the best way to go about it.
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The ONE thing I am worried about is that it will REQUIRE windows vista. If it does, then the came will cost like $300 instead of 60 because youll have to buy windows Vista as well. I swear, if they make vista required, Im gonna kill bill gates
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Personally I am fine with FS9. For one thing I wont be able to afford a computer to run FS10. And probably all my planes I have now, including the payware ones will probably be useless......But in a few years the everyone using XP will be in the same boat as the ones using Windows 9X are right now, and will have to upgrade from XP........
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Something's fishy here.
The article states release is in February. But on the other hand it requires Windows Vista, which will have its U.S release in late MAY '06....
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Something's fishy here.
The article states release is in February. But on the other hand it requires Windows Vista, which will have its U.S release in late MAY '06....
It won't REQUIRE Windows Vista, only that it is being developed to take advantage of it ...
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Well, that's a relief. I guess. ???
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Another, and this time great, FS thread! I am slightly a tiny weeny bit suspicious though that this is a hoax as I can't find any info.
No info here:
http://www.microsoft.com/games/pc/default.aspx
EDIt: Typos. Also I cannot find anything on the net anywhere not even the article. However the writer DJ Stapleton is indeed the author of the release dates for PC Gamer.
Saitek,MSFS has new official site for already two or three month-so all updates and announcements will be here(I think):
www.fsinsider.com
These news are wonderful but why they call new fs version 11th one?The new must be 10th!
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These news are wonderful but why they call new fs version 11th one?The new must be 10th!
They don't call it the 11th version, they say that air sickness bags will be included in the 11th version. X is the roman numeral for 10 so FSX = FS10.
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Yes, its FS10. IT seems like microsoft has finally decided to stop naming it by year but instead naming it by number. The First FS came out in 1979, and right now 2004 is number 9
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A Geforce 7800 is required for Windows Vista? If I remember right, the Geforce 7800 wasn't cheap. Are you sure it's required or recommended?
I know I can't shell out the money for one anytime soon
absolute minimum requirement for the latest test version.
Russian planes:
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ooooh no..................
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Guys, here are the prices for the Ge-force 7800.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/7800__Series.html
If that is the case - goodbye FSX.
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Saitek, I noticed that all the cards on the website are have "PCI-Express' in the description.
Is it really a PCI card instead of an AGP card?
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PCI-E ....... think of PCI as a snail ...... AGP is a man running .... PCI-E is a Cheetah at full belt. High end PCI-E cards run at 16xAGP.
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Im running with PCI-Express, its very fast
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What's the difference between PCI and PCI-Express?
Is it the same physical slot on the motherboard, or is it something new on new motherboards? I've never heard of it before
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I really don't think Microsoft will make you go buy a £200 video card for a $70 game. Perhaps the 7800 is just recommended.
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Couple of things...
1. The article is in the "Top 10 Games of 2006" and you'll notice they have the "Eclusive Announcement" thing at the top right, so they may have some new or interesting information, I personally hadn't heard (or read
) any of the material in the article before, so it was news to me.
2. Also, I wish I had a better scanner so you could see the details in the shot, it looks like there are bump-mapped rivets and notice the coast-line is really much more detailed than before, as are the clouds. I think it will look great, but will also be able to be run on the systems people have now. I run FS9 on a computer at home that has a 64 Mb Video card and and old Pentium III, and it can run smoothly, without all the fancy graphics settings, and it is still a step up from FS2002, so I will definitely be getting it when it comes out, even if I can't run it full bore quite yet.
Also, if you notice, the person flying Patty Wagstaff's airplane (or what looks like it) isn't Patty Wagstaff (maybe you can't see it, but I can in the magazine). So this is just speculation, but anyone think there is the possibility of creating your own pilot who has their stats tracked? I know X-Plane does that already, it keeps track of what you flew, where you flew, and a couple of other things.
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Just remember, the article doesn't really have anything "new" that MS hasn't already revealed:
Tom Gibson's posting on the Microsoft FS-X presentation
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Meh. If microsoft expects the 7800 requirement to stick, they are kidding themselves. Virtually the entire existing "off shelf" computer market wouldn't qualify, much less any laptop I can think of outside of MAYBE some of the 6k Alienware gaming laptops.
I don't think that's gonna stick.
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Just remember, the article doesn't really have anything "new" that MS hasn't already revealed:
Tom Gibson's posting on the Microsoft FS-X presentation
I've seen the presentation at the International Flightsim Convention in Blackpool UK. The guys were very evasive when asked about the slides showing enviromental enhancments and wether they were for FS10. There's nothing new in the article that those who have seen the presentation haven't already seen, apart from a possible release date.
For those moaning about the recommended specs ....... they seem perfectly reasonable. From what I've seen of all M$ flightsims they will run reasonably on the machines current to the date of the sim , but to get the max out of the sim upgrades will be necessary. That, to be honest, is the world of Computers and gaming. When you realise that you have gained enlightenment.
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Read the very last line at the bottom of the magazine page. Although it may not require Vista, Im willing to bet that its going to run and look a whole lot better with it. Todd
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I'd put money on it not being
just
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Even if I had the money, which I don't, I won't be getting it until at least a year after launch. Can't see any point in getting something that optimised for a new OS that's not yet been tested or released, i'll wait until they've got 'most' of the bugs out. Plus, they'll be bugger all freeware stuff for the first few months anyway.
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minimum quoted specs for vista
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Wow, I feel my heart throbbing! It was at the absolute last minute that I didnt get a Geforce 6800 SLI and got the Geforce 7800GT instead.... I even phoned the shop to change it on the last day!
Good call I suppose!
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Fast On and Off: A Windows Vista computer starts and shuts down as quickly and reliably as a television, typically within 2 to 3 seconds. Windows Vista processes login scripts and startup programs and services in the background so you can start working right away. You'll also shut down and restart your computer less often by using the New Sleep state, a simple one-click on and off experience which not only reduces power consumption, but also delivers and protects user data.
You have to admit to this being awefully cool!
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Just found this, microsoft official stuff:
"Thirdly, the graphics card and system bus is essential. PCI x16 is going to be very important. Any of today's 3D GPUs will be fine; we're not waiting for some mystical monster that may or may not come out. But they need to have 128MB of RAM on it. If they've only got 64 don't panic." - Nigel Page, Microsoft Strategist
The full article is here:
http://www.apcstart.com/teched/pivot/entry.php?id=6
However its better of course to have a Video Card with 256MB or more integrated memory.
I just checked an my Geforce 7800GT has PCI x41, thats a relief.
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Well, I can kiss this game goodbye. My comp's only packing an old GeForce2 MX400, and there's no way I can afford even the
bare minimum
requirements for a game like that...
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Can a God of the white magic box that lives under my desk please explain what Windows Vista is (small words please).
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Its an Operating System, like Windows 98, Windows NT and Windows XP Professional.
But its a huge leap in technology, the pc starts up in 2-3 secs, like you start up a tv..
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Windows Vista = Windows XP Replacement
And hopefully 32 and 64 bit compatable
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Ok so all you phobes out there saying "oh no! i dont have this card and OS, and i think we will need it!" just shutup for a second. Think back when any game comes out the same type of things are said. They SUGGEST this card and OS but dont REQUIRE it. Like when fs9 come out, some people got new cards, some used current ones and
turned graphics down
(half the fun is finding the best setting for your game it makes it more personal to your personality ???), and some got left behind. Its not as big a deal as you are trying to make it. Yes my computer (my laptop) will NOT run it but my dads will
It wont be as flashy as some others but still its there and all i had to do was spend the 70 bucks on the game. Again look on lets say your fs2002 req. it says min 8 mb video mem. you could run it with that right? well same deal with fs9 and fsx but probly for x they will recomend atleast 32mb or so with a certian video card but yes you will need a high end video card for FULL effect of the game. Just like ANY OTHER new pc game thats made.
as for me and many others i wont buy the new os for a long while, i probly wont get fsx for awhile, but when i do i'lll ask my dad to let me use his comp and i will be happy chasing dear, buffalo or whatever they put in it with the new default choppers or boeings or airbus. I will be happy with WHAT I HAVE and when the freeware comes out i will download just about anything that catches my eye...
just like any other FS i have owned. So as for you pilots worrying about your system specs.. save it for the techie room down below and shutup.
Sorry for the lenth and rudeness but it has to be said. And yes i am expecting alot of controversy from this too...
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May I be the first?
Well im not a "phobe" im sure I'll run it fine full settings.
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woha boy, i just built my new comp, just in time for a new release of FS.
as usual with Microsoft, i'm gonna be a beta tester
Microsoft beta-tester: the first people who get their hands on a half-ass product, then wait for the service packs. yup, thats pretty accurate (ie: xbox360)
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Are the 'minimum' specs that are being quoted, recommended or actually the bare minimum?
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Are the 'minimum' specs that are being quoted, recommended or actually the bare minimum?
I've found (with FS9, for example) that the bare minimum is really the bare minimum: that is, with the specs quoted, it'll barely run, and you'll want to upgrade.
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Very interesting. I'll wait and see what others say who will buy the game before I buy it. Probably the safest way to go about it.
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YESSSS!! Information about the next FS
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May I be the first?
Well im not a "phobe" im sure I'll run it fine full settings.
Wouldnt bet my money on that, your processor is 2 years old already, just like mine
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THERE IS NO WAY THAT A 7800 IS THE
MINIMUM
REQUIREMENT!!!
When will you get it? Its not THAT important to have a 7800. 1st of all, MS wouldnt require you to have an nVidia card. 2nd, 7800 is the best you can buy, besides an X1800, and If you cant get anything better, EVERYONE would have minimum settings. Im sure that something beter than what you need minimum for FS9 will be required, but probably it will only need 512RAM, a 128MB VGA, and most likely will run better with a 64bit 2.0+ Ghz processor.
Stop worrying about the specs, if you think about it, theres no way that a 300 or 400 dollar card will be the minimum requirement, I dont have any Idea where you coulda found that from.
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While I can see why some are scratching their heads wondering “will it work with this or will it be compatible with that…can my computer run it? Do I need Vista?” etc we have to remember that this is technology. Specifically computer technology. We cant all sit around thinking “It better run on what I have now. I just bought my new PC”, or the woeful feelings of looking at it and thinking you will never be able to run it.
Even the most up to date computer is basically obsolete as soon as you turn it on. Computer technology progresses faster than most technological areas, and as consumers we either live with what we have for a while, before upgrading, or we sit back and ogle what we don’t have.
Ive read a lot of great things about Vista on the net, and hope that the next sim from MS utilizes as much as possible. I hope some of my favorite payware and freeware addons will eventually be compatible with FS10, but if not, then so be it.
I also look at sims out of the box as the foundation for which freeware and payware devs create the magic. FS9 out of the box was beautiful in its time, but compared to then, and what I have invested in FS9 now, it hardly looks the same and with that, I personally am in no hurry for FS10, nor wanting to invest a few grand in a new PC with Vista, until I personally feel the time is right.
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Info about Vista
http://www.msfn.org/
Look around. There is a page about hardware requirements. Can't remember where I seen it. but it definitley is on there. I'll have another look around, see what i can dig up. Hope that link helps
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Haha! As soon as I post my last message, I find the page the hardware requirements are on.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/vistahardware.ms...
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WOW!!!
At last - an insgith into FS X!!!
This will be one amazing sim!!!
Oh well, time to do away with my current system, it can run FS9 okay but this will destroy my system.......
I can't wait any longer!!!
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Wouldnt bet my money on that, your processor is 2 years old already, just like mine
Not really I just got it a month ago, with my whole setup
Dont worry I know what you mean
But still im certain that I can play it at full settings, the main thing with Vista is it will make more use of the graphics card.
Mine is a Geforce 7800GT OC and delivers at 41x, compared to 24x on the Geforce 6800 GPU which is still a forerunner compared to some other GPUs. It will run just fine, I play all other games (BATLLEFIELD 2, HALF LIFE 2, CALL OF DUTY 2 etc) now at full settings with very high frames and not a hitch in frames.
And if I need to get a bigger processor (hich I highly doubt) then so be it, im all in!
FROM THE MS WEBSITE:
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The current x64 processors from Intel and AMD will be excellent processors for Windows Vista, and I think well see a widespread move to 64-bit by the time Windows Vista ships
Well, mine fits that description..
On the computers.startkabel.be site there are people who have the leaked beta version of Vista running on their pcs already.
One guy has a Radeon 9800, and a
1.8GHz
processor and he says its running smooth as water.
By the way, let me make clear that I am completely against piracy. All my software, be it for my PC, PS2, Xbox, Cds or whatever is all authentic.
But just to show that maybe these rumours are a bit off the scale, no one from Microsoft ever said you need a 7800.
Thats what I have to say
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Here is the real difference....
anything under a 7800 you will not see antelope and rabbits running around a field in the woods...
anything over a 7800 and you will need to buy some food to feed the animals!
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Here is the real difference....
anything under a 7800 you will not see antelope and rabbits running around a field in the woods...
anything over a 7800 and you will need to buy some food to feed the animals!
Seen that I'm a heavy iron pilot, I wanted to ask how many antelopes and rabbits will I be able to find at FL350 in FSX?
Nice graphic... new ground traffic... wildlife...
Nice, but what about the
flight
?
Will there be better flight characteristics? Will there be support for more than 4 engines and vectored thrust? Wil the panels be done better than what garbage we have today (especially the 747 and 777)? Is there a snowflake's hope in a nuclear blast of having a default FMC? Will there be sloped runways? Will the runways be able to be considered contamined (beside graphically) by rain, snow, hail, whatever? Will this reflect on the landing of the plane?
And I could continue with this. I hear a lot of people asking themselves about nicer graphics and video cards and OS's, I have yet to understand if this should-be
flight simulator
10 will be better than FS9.
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Seen that I'm a heavy iron pilot, I wanted to ask how many antelopes and rabbits will I be able to find at FL350 in FSX?
Nice graphic... new ground traffic... wildlife...
None, but in the new version you will have birdstrikes.....
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All my computer is 64 bit technology, we have 1GB of ram and a reasonable processor. The card specs are ok - but I guess on full settings I'd expect a very poor frame rate. However, if I kick out the clouds in the new edition I may be able to have everything on full spec without a problem.
The problem for me is is that I want to go to uni and have it aon a notebook. This will mean getting a superb computer and the max I have is £1000.
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All my computer is 64 bit technology, we have 1GB of ram and a reasonable processor. The card specs are ok - but I guess on full settings I'd expect a very poor frame rate. However, if I kick out the clouds in the new edition I may be able to have everything on full spec without a problem.
i know that. i just finished building my new comp 2 days ago, and still making all sorts of transfers. but the thing thats gets me the most at the moment is is it worth it to switch to XP64bit while it's still in beta, or wait for Vista?
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Not really I just got it a month ago, with my whole setup
Dont worry I know what you mean
But still im certain that I can play it at full settings, the main thing with Vista is it will make more use of the graphics card.
Mine is a Geforce 7800GT OC and delivers at 41x, compared to 24x on the Geforce 6800 GPU which is still a forerunner compared to some other GPUs. It will run just fine, I play all other games (BATLLEFIELD 2, HALF LIFE 2, CALL OF DUTY 2 etc) now at full settings with very high frames and not a hitch in frames.
And if I need to get a bigger processor (hich I highly doubt) then so be it, im all in!
FROM THE MS WEBSITE:
Well, mine fits that description..
On the computers.startkabel.be site there are people who have the leaked beta version of Vista running on their pcs already.
One guy has a Radeon 9800, and a
1.8GHz
processor and he says its running smooth as water.
By the way, let me make clear that I am completely against piracy. All my software, be it for my PC, PS2, Xbox, Cds or whatever is all authentic.
But just to show that maybe these rumours are a bit off the scale, no one from Microsoft ever said you need a 7800.
Thats what I have to say
Oh my...don't tell me you're one of those guys who thinks a good GFX card will fix it for you? What you need if you want to run games at max is the following: Vista is a 64bit system, which mean you'll need some 2gb memory, preferable DDR3, and a damn fast HDD to boot. That's the case. If you're switching from 32bit to 64bit, you need to double the amount of RAM
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Oh my...don't tell me you're one of those guys who thinks a good GFX card will fix it for you? What you need if you want to run games at max is the following: Vista is a 64bit system, which mean you'll need some 2gb memory, preferable DDR3, and a damn fast HDD to boot. That's the case. If you're switching from 32bit to 64bit, you need to double the amount of RAM
In that case, I'll stick with the 32bit platforms.
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None, but in the new version you will have birdstrikes.....
And why on God's every day less an less green earth should I bother with FSX for this little if a simple add-on (though payware, but a very good piece of payware) like FsPassenger can do the same
a lot
better? ???
As I see it, and I speak for myself, there's no need for me to get hyper about this new FSX. Yes, I will in the end adopt it, but there's no haste. IMHO.
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MS provide the foundation and devolopers build on it. MS do the real work and it costs them millions and millions to produce it.
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MS provide the foundation and devolopers build on it. MS do the real work and it costs them millions and millions to produce it.
I don't really think this is anywhere among M$ priorities.
Yes, they gain from royalties no doubt, but then this way of see thing authorizes us to suppose they willingly leave the holes in their softwares (FS, in this case) so to gain more $ and € indirectly from others' work.
It's frighteningly possible actually.
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There no possible way that Microsoft would make a 7800 be the requirement. Nevertheless have Vista be one as well. Pending their
actual
release date, the possibility for these requirements would change. However, if the release date is actually in Feb. 2006, then this is beyond anything that we could handle. A 2007 release date would seem more likely for a 7800 requirement.
As for the FS10 coming out, I would much rather have Microsoft wait on the release, and start over with the engines. Crashing in FS9 is
atrocious
and the distance from reality is large. Also, from what I remember, the looks on the box of the game were NOTHING from what it was when I turned it on. Sure, I didn't have the top of the line stuff, but at the time, it wasn't half bad either.
Looking at the game now, and comparing it to real pictures (I know, far-fetched), it seems the scale of size is screwy. Lighting and elements of that sort aren't good either.
Comparing this to the new games like Battlefield 2 and Call of Duty 2, FS is abysmal. However, I'm not saying that the current FS isn't as good as it is, but it could be graphically much better. That's what I want this new FS10 to do, huge upgrades, with some real time put into it. It seems with FS2002 and FS2004, models were sloppily thrown together, and textures weren't well thought through. I've heard Microsoft doesn't have the time to do all this. Well, the bar is being set higher and higher from games like Call of Duty 2, etc, and they'll need to put some time and effort into this game. If this turns out to be like we have it right now, default planes are mediocre, and the way to make your sim better is to download
everything
, then I'm going to reconsider paying for the better system to run it on.
Sorry, didn't mean to rant, don't get me wrong, I love FS.
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but think of it this way...
how many Msft programs are open source...?
have any of you noticed that we could change FS in a snap, change the main page, add aircraft, change the scenery. as far as i can tell, you can't do that kind of stuff with other programs (unless you've got the goods and knowledge)
i sorta compare FS to linux... if you want something changed, change it!
(again with the knowledge... (looks at self... (deletes linux)))
also, with a release date of feb. how can you expect that it will be vista mandatory... we still don't have a release date for vista yet, and it's projected for fall 2006... hkinda hard to be required.
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I need RAM, the PMDG B1900C only gets 20-25 fps in the VC
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Anyone here remember flying in FS 2002 and the speculation about FS 2004 before it came out? It was going to have this ____ or that ____ and we'd need to ________. Questions about whether _____ airplane will work or whether ____ would upgrade their fantastic _____ model for the new sim. (put whatever you want in the blank spaces)
What really happened? FS 2004 came out. There was grousing about the FRs. Some people with low end machines had to upgrade. A few quirks in the sim it'self but fixes were found new drivers for graphics cards were released and everything eventually worked out. Some airplanes were upgraded. Others weren't but eventually we put those aside and found others we are now fond of.
Nobody had to buy a super computer. Nobody was totally left out. Most who said they'd wait until MS fixed every single thing that was messed up before they would buy 2004 eventually got the sim. The ones who haven't gotten it yet are happy with 2002. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Eventually time will tell. Microsoft hasn't said much about the new sim so I'll believe it when I see it on their website.
Anyone else here having this same feeling of deja voux?
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hmmm.........read this
this is interesting
from
http://www.simflight.com/
Microsoft just sent out a press release telling us that they will be announcing news on the next version of Flight Simulator (internally known as FSX). As we already suspected,
the article in PCGamer was premature and incorrect
, reason why we did not mention it in the news. Expect more news to surface after New Years Day..... we'll keep you posted of course.
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Anyone else here having this same feeling of deja voux?
It's funny how the same thing happens whenever a new version of FS is released.
I remember it happening before FS2000 was released, but not so much as before FS2002 was released. It still amazes me how many people didn't think the upgrade from FS2000 to FS2002 was worth it, and yet those people still didn't wan't to upgrade from FS2002 to FS2004.
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It's funny how the same thing happens whenever a new version of FS is released.
I remember it happening before FS2000 was released, but not so much as before FS2002 was released. It still amazes me how many people didn't think the upgrade from FS2000 to FS2002 was worth it, and yet those people still didn't wan't to upgrade from FS2002 to FS2004.
to be fair though, fs9 didnt run well on alot of computers at the time. And the jump from 2000 to 2002 was huge, so alot of people were happy to stay with that. it'll be the same again this time round.
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Well apparently news will be out soon anyway - New Year is only around the corner.
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Indeed, just a coupla days!
Wow, whatever the case it sure looks as though this is going to be one hell of a game...
Untill then back to Batllefield and Call of Duty!
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So Pc Gamer was speculating. AT least it got MS to say.
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I wouldnt freack out you guys... My computer is 2 years old (with a Geforce4400..YIKES!)
and it STILL runs FS9 well as long as I turn down my addon AI traffic at airports like JFK or LAX. Lukily I fly GA mostly so it doesnt matter... and the only scenery that affect frames bad at all is my Honolulu Int scenery and NYC.
I am dissapointed though.. I WANTED WEAPONS INCLUDED SO I COULD HAVE A COMPLETE FLYING SIM! I wanted to be ablr to do military and Civilian flying in the same sim and be able to intertwine the two types... (
Some say my pinky toe was replaced with a fountain pen, and that I love to ride on nuclear bombs with a saddle. All I know is.... I'm called THE STIG!!!!
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They will NEVER put weapons in FS because people would use them to blow up cities, other planes, etc. I dont see how you could dogfight in FS, you would need 2 seperate sims in one
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A couple of the downloads I have have included weapons.
You guys don't want to see the System Specs I have...
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If you want a sim that is both a civil and military platform, go with X-Plane. That sim has weapons and the weapons explode. However, that only if you want to pay $70 for a 60GIG simulator that doesn't have much good-looking addon around.
Just be happy with what you have. Stop complaining about FS because we people now have the capability to create our own addons and scenery to our own specifications without having to wait on MS. Hell, we even managed to create flight plans within Google Earth and we can also browse the web and listen to music while flying from San Francisco to Tokyo with an automated copilot and flight attendant.
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minimum quoted specs for vista
GeForce 7800
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GeForce 7800
>I need to work on this one
AMD64 Dualcore
>Check
1024MB RAM
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You're better off than a lot of people, me included as you can see in my signature. And I really don't think that in M$ they smoked so much weed to make a 7800 needed as a minimum. Chill out.
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I really don't think that in M$ they smoked so much weed to make a 7800 needed as a minimum. Chill out.
Hmmm... ???
I
really
hope these were not my last famous words...
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I am dissapointed though.. I WANTED WEAPONS INCLUDED SO I COULD HAVE A COMPLETE FLYING SIM! I wanted to be ablr to do military and Civilian flying in the same sim and be able to intertwine the two types... (
Not heard of CFS3 then? I do see the point about having a 'real world' environment, ie, you fly to Iraq in a transport and then jump into an F-18 or something and go on a mission. However, to combine the two would use up even more resorces and the MS FS series has always been about flying, nothing else. Plus, if they made it 'totaly' real, you'd have to wait for five years before a mission came up and then you'd go back to your base to sit around all day doing nothing. Reality does have it's boring side you know!
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GeForce 7800
>I need to work on this one
AMD64 Dualcore
>Check
1024MB RAM
> Check x2
Boy make us feel WORSE about our incompetent 'computers'.
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AMD64 Dualcore
>Check
1024MB RAM
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ditto on everything (as of 4 days ago.)
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Ditto here too, but I have the geforce.
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Am just curious if anyone ever bought a car with perfectly good "stock" wheels and replaced them with $1000.00 worth of fancy custom wheels and tires.
That is the same thing a lot of us do with our computers.
I have already started gathering goodies in anticipation of the new Vista operating system and the upcoming new FSX. I just ordered a new X2 processor, a 250G HDD, and 2G more ram for this computer.
I have no doubt that I have enough computer to run FSX with this computer as it is. Upgrading is a 2 fold thing: when I upgrade this computer the parts will go into a lesser computer I own which needed upgrading anyway.
The trick was convincing my wife this was a necessary upgrade.
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In a communication received from representatives of Microsoft Game Studios late yesterday, AVSIM was informed that "the next instalment of the Flight Simulator franchise" is forthcoming, with a projected release date of Q4 2006. This information was released in response to the inaccurate release date published in US magazine PC Gamer's February edition; AVSIM delayed its publication of this note from MGS until it had verified that this information could be released to the public.
So,relax,guys,you have more than enough time to upgrade and by tha release date GF7800GT will not be a high-end card anymore...
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Well, if it's
projected
to be released in Q4 of 2006, then using '2006' as the title might become outdated. It appears that titles really seem to be important to Microsoft, considering they didn't want to make the Xbox '2', because Sony was coming out with PS3, making Xbox sound like the generation before. That's why they went with 360, apparently.
Also, judging they have some troubleshooting, and problems with testing (like Halo 2), then Microsoft will have some trouble sending this out in 2006 alone.
As for the game itself, I hope more than anything they don't go down a road like one of those garbage 'tycoon' games. (e.g Rollercoaster Tycoon, Zoo Tycoon). Complete with passengers that give back ratings, etc. It would all sound mildly lame. I want this to be as PROFESSIONAL as possible. Make everything realistic.
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Vista wont require a 7800 maybe only for full support of DX10. Betas run on a Sony Viao....and dual core, it may be multithreaded but wont require such a thing, dual core are just too new. Last read on the Vista Webasite it said most ne gpus will be fine as long as they have 128 megs video ram, that sounds like a far cry from a 7800.
Relax guys it has a new engine look at todays new engines HL2 runns well on even midrange systems, lets not get out panties in a bunch over some stupid myth someone threw out there.
Cool to see an announcement even if it is a year away, sounds like it will be a stunning sim! And just what I hoped for a new gfx engine
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"If you want a sim that is both a civil and military platform, go with X-Plane. That sim has weapons and the weapons explode. However, that only if you want to pay $70 for a 60GIG simulator that doesn't have much good-looking addon around".
Hey katahu, one brag X-plane can make over FS is this " FAA certified, FAA certified, FAA certified. Also, you obviously didn't spend much time searching for X-plane add-ons. Verion 8 with all the best scenery additions available added to it looks darn near as good as COF. That plus it FAA certified.
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X-plane takes 60 Gigs of memory?!?
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60 gigs of hard drive that is (For photoreal scenery alone) and prolly another 5 or 6 for the game itself! My FS9 is 30 gigs or so.... hehe Well Great to hear of a new FS Version, but dont kill yourselves fretting over specs, it was developed on what they had when they started.... so it should run on the comps we have now! Cheers, Gunny
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Well, so much for my FS use . . .
Gonna have to surrender to the inevitable: I don't have enough time or money to keep up with this stuff.
I'm really starting to dislike gaming in general. Way too costly and time-consuming.
Shoot, might as well get a Mac. Works better, and without all the fuss.
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Good point Gunny, they can't program on something they don't have.
I went to the MS site and read the specs required to run Vista. My guess is that if you have any kind of 64 bit computer you are in business. The general hardware was not an outlandish requirement.
As simmers most of us have the required graphics cards, monitors and probably the HDD space.
It was a little grey about 32 bit systems. When I finished reading I was not sure if Vista ran on 32 bits or not.
I would say the handwriting is on the wall though, 64 bit will take over just as 32 bit did and 16 bit before it.
At 62 years of age I have seen all of the changes and was glad for all of them. In the coming years I expect more exciting changes and I am sure I will upgrade to accomodate them too.
And no, I do not miss running anything in dos.
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Thats a correct interpretation Richard.
+ I cant really remember running DOS.... I must have been like 6 years old back then.
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Locke you dont have to upgrade your computer every 6 months nay, If you built 1 top of the line comp you could get a year and a half of really good performance (And prolly a bit more) and the only upgrade you'd need really is graphics card unless some new CPUs came out or somethin.... Personally I wouldnt know from expierence, I've had crappy comps for my entire life, I live with em
ocassionaly sending them to the Computer dungeon..... I upgrade when I can afford it and goggle when I cant..... I have no super computer, but it does what I want or it gets a good dicipline day..! Cheers, Gunny
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OK Gunny, you got me on that one. How do you dicipline your computer.
I personally just send the operator out for a beer, the puter can fend for itself.
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Try reading the rest of the thread....
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Well, this is all great news...apart from the specs requirements...
I'm studying in london, and since I'm originaly from portugal, I already spend a lot of money as it is without thinking on upgrading computers...
I have a laptop with a Pentium M 2,13 / 80Gb HdD/ ati x700 mobility 128mb/ 1024 ddr2.
Now, this will have to do to run FSX, or else I'll go to m$ and slap them all!!!! I will not be able to upgrade (it's a laptop), and I don't think I'll be getting a new desktop comp any time soon...
In any case, can't wait for FSX!
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I really don't understand what all this fuzz is about.
This wasn't even an official article. Lets just wait for some real news from M$ itself before panicking about pc specs.
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I just wish FS9 could remain forever. Wouldnt it be better if the improvements were not coming in the shape of a new version but via several add-ons?
You have one ground version of the sim and then you decide what you need - moving traffic, water textures, weather, improved flight dynamics. you pick according to your preferences.
But it probably would be impossible to sell a new engine as add-on.
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Silly you, then MS would not make any more money!
Mind you, I dare say that a new version is more neccessary this time as they want to take advantage of WVista. I don't pretent to know much about such things but I do know that making a complex piece of software such as FS9 compatible with a completely new OS would be basicaly like a new version anyway.
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Aside form MS making money (which they are in business to do) I am looking forward to a new more complex Sim that runs true 64 bit and will take advantage of the latest hardware.
If you look back at the previous "WHAT DO I WANT IN FS-10" posts everyone else did to. You all asked MS to give me this and give me that. Well it seems that they did and now you don't want it.
Be carefiu what you wish for comes to mind here.
FS-9 is not going away and people are not going to stop making addons. FS-2002 is still going strong and I still see new addons for it.
We all seem to be chasing the loose horse and it is not even out of the barn yet.
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I figure I will get my two cents in here. I am glad that there is another excellent MFS on the way, but honestly, I dont feel like I have completely experienced FS9 yet. I run on a Gateway laptop that is a year and a half old. And I honestly havent got time to read this entire thread and find out exactly what requirements I need to run the new sim. I have a mobility RADEON 7500 with 32 bit which I assume is not going to cut it. And so it comes down to the fact that my laptop is going to be inferior and therefore obsolete to this new sim. But I am perfectly ok with that as long as I am not alone here. I enjoy FS9 and I will continue to until I eventually do upgrade to FSX.
Then again, by that time the next upgrade should be out.
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Well, my best bet is to upgrade my ram from 512MB to 1024MB [or 1 GIG] since my laptop [however, large and heavy it may be] can only upgrade from a 64MB to a 128MB video card at best. However, to make up for the lack of video power, a 1 GIG RAM might suffice.
However, video cards made for laptops are not common. But there are plenty of powerful memory sticks for laptops.
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Locke you dont have to upgrade your computer every 6 months nay, If you built 1 top of the line comp you could get a year and a half of really good performance
A year and a half from a computer...............I must introduce you all to Mrs.The-Ex-Pat and let you know her point of view as to how long a computer should last. If she had her way, I would still be on a 286.
"Why do you need a new monitor, that one is just fine"
"Yes dear, but it is green".
"And that keyboard has full function".
"Again I know, but when you press the keys, the click is keeping the neighbors awake".
"Also a sound card and speakers, you have a perfectly good little speaker in the computer at the front".
"Yes, yes I know, but with this new computer I can run FS9 with full resolution, with real cloud effects and dynamic scenary, that means other aircraft flying with me. Also a real shimmer effect on the water. I can fly CAT III ILS approaches in near zero visibility too".
And she says....................,"YOU ARE SO SAD"
Anyone else have to put up with this??
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YES! But try to do it with the wife speaking 2 languages
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YES! But try to do it with the wife speaking 2 languages
That I forgot to mention, I get it in two languages too. Mrs.The-Ex-Pat is from a European counrtry that has no sence of humour, but in the past a taste for visiting other peoples countries without an invite:o
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What a coincidence! So is mine, little or no sense of humor, especially American style, and have no speed limits on the hiways but if the tire maker says it"ll do 200 KMH in the snow before losing traction that"s what they"ll do...Oh wait....better play nice or she"ll tell her cousin not to finish putting the motor into the mustang
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the tire maker says it"ll do 200 KMH in the snow
Oh yes, I know that one......But it says that I can drive at 200 KMH with my snow tyres.....Correct, but NOT IN THE SNOW!!!
And my co-worker could still not understand why his Merc was now looking like it had been run over by a tank. The luckiest people are the ones with the least common sence.
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.....Anyone else have to put up with this??
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Ohhhh, yes!! Glad i'm not alone!
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Good. Now I have more time to buy my new rig.
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So we now have some official information, but what is the information. The release does not really say anything except that we have a vague release date.
Lots of flowery wording:... beautifully rich and immersive 3D world for aviation fans, young and old, to explore and experience, the new enhancements will be amazed at the new level of detail in the models and the realistic effects like sun glint off the glass and chrome, reflective paint, and even shaded rivets on the fuselage.....
So we have reflective glass and chrome and shaded rivets. Nothing about air and ground graphics, effects, ATC and weather or the aircraft that may come as standard. Thought I have to say, that some of the screen shots do make my mouth water. Fields and trees that do look very good.
Another vague point, was what we as users will require computer wise. Sorry, but if you have a product that is getting towards a release, then you know full well what will be needed to run it, or very close to it.
Also, it would appear that a few people need to muffle a sorry or two to the guys who posted just what seems to be now in the official release and was shot down each time that they posted. So in a nut shell, nothing more in this release that has already been posted in the forums. Typical vague MS press release.
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Thought I have to say, that some of the screen shots do make my mouth water. Fields and trees that do look very good.
So....where can I find screenshots...until now I only saw the one from the pcgamer article...
any help?
thks
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Forget what I asked...hehe..I just found the m$ thingy in simviation frontpage
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Well, after seing the screenshots, I must say that I think we all overreacted!
The Sim is really nice and the overall feeling is much more real, BUT, I don't think that the graphics improvments will be that big that will oblige everyone to get new computers...
the one thing that can cut my fps in half in fs9 is the 3d clouds.
with them on I get around 30fps, with them out I get 50-60 fps.
So I imagine this is probably the heaviest thing in terms of graphics, but by the FSX screenshots, the clouds seem preaty much the same...so I don't thik there will be a substantial change in that area, wich is fine by me, cause I think fs9 clouds are great.
So....
I hope it comes soon, I I think that it will run ok in most of todays medium+ sistems.
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Well, after seing the screenshots, I must say that I think we all overreacted!
C'mon, they've even got the clouds reflecting in the water
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Screens do look impressive and I particularly like the 'new' reflections. The water looks good and the shot with the 747 on a wet runway is awsome!
BUT are they 'true' reflections though?
I mean, if I park a 737 in United colours on a wet gate, will the reflection be of that AC in those colours? Are the 'reflected' clouds on the water actualy true mirror images of the sky above or are they just more random clouds put there to
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Well, after seing the screenshots, I must say that I think we all overreacted!
C'mon, they've even got the clouds reflecting in the water
Even so...I was expecting a much igher improvment.
I mean, I don't think that the graphics are HL2 standard...wuich by no means is a bad thing, they are really nice, just not top notch...
again, this is fine, cause we'll get a better looking sim without having to get new cimputers, and also it may mean that they spent more time in other stuf...physics, etc!
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OH GOD, another 350 quid graphics card to fork out
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Well I run an AMD64 3800
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Honestly, I dont think that water reflections will be that big of a deal. Reason? has anyone played Age of Empires III? I know that isn't made by the same people (they are both MS, but AoE is made by Ensamble and released through MS, beside the point...) But if they can do water that looks almost completely real, with detailed reflections, then so can the FS people. And AoEIII runs perfectly on my mid-level machine.
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Great...yet another M$ Flight sim that will kick almost every computers a$$ and wont run worth playing unless you shell out another couple grand for upgrades...and then you MIGHT be able to max it out
I'm still running on good ol FS2002 and am perfectly happy with keeping it for a few more years...then i might consider getting FS2004
Its just disgusting that even with my system specs i cant even get 2002 to run smoothly with the settings at slightly less then half
I'm slowly gathering parts to build a new system to the way i want it. Maybe one of these days i can at least get it maxed out even with addon scenery
I just dont see a point in getting all excited untill it is out and tried. As usualy greatly detailed games will run smooth on a computer but the FS with half the detail wont without more power. They shouldnt even bother putting system requirements on the box "ya...it will run on this system.....like a slideshow"
What is wrong with pre-rendering in the FS world. Ide rather wait 5 minutes before flying and get a smooth and scenic flight over mountains insted of seeing the frame rate drop to the single digits when i get remotely close to a "detailed" area or even worse...clouds
FS imho is one of the most demanding games out there when it comes to system specs. Ive had plenty of games maxed out with quality and run perfectly smooth on this system even areas that are more detailed then my FS world
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In most games the directions you can go are limited and you usually never move faster that a run.
FS gives you unlimited direction, distance and speed. I would think it would be more than a 5 minute wait if FS had to render all of Earth with the quality that we would like to see.
Unlike other "games" that can eventually be beaten, FS is ended only when your imagination or curiosity is put to rest.
The current versions of FS that we own and the computers we run it on will be capable of running for years to come.
I still have a windows 95 computer in the basement to run some old games on and after Vista is released I am sure I will have a XP computer for what will become "Old Games".
I love technology and the change it brings. We are only about 30 years into the desktop computer age and I am sure we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Progress will not go away and whineing about it will not help.
Sit back and enjoy the ride ladies and gentlemen, I am sure it is going to be a fun one.
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Triple_7,
Here, Here!
There are probably going to be alot of disapointed people out there when they get FSX. It's going to SUCK the power right out of your PC. There are many here that get excellent frame rates on high settings who will find that they'll have to turn them down on FSX. The 'minimum' specs quoted so far aren't the half of it. Here's the 'min' spec for FS9, my spec is shown in italics next to it,
OS- Win 98- 64mb RAM, W2k/XP- 128mb RAM
XP sp2, 608mb RAM
CPU- 450Mhz
AMD 1400Mhz
H Drive- 1.8 GB
Seagate 80Gb
Video/Graphics card- 8mb, Direct X 9.0+
Built in 64mb
To the layman with my spec PC, it would appear that FS9 will zip along at full detail as all the minimums are exceeded by some margin. However, I actualy average 8-10fps with some AC like POSKY and Meljet being unusable. Basicaly, the 'minimum' spec is what you'll need to install and open it with, not get any satisfaction from. However, this is all speculation, we'll see when it comes out.
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Why is everyone sayin this thing is not gonna run well on any thing but a super computer. It has a new engine, new platform, new DirectX all of this enables more things to run better. Yes some will need an upgrade but what would you rather have a game that has out of this world visuals and gameply but it wont quite run on your comp or just stay with thie same ole same ole so no one needs to upgrade. The way you guys complain it sounds like you don't want improvements on FS because your system can not handle it. Rember M$ would not make money if it only ran on high end PCs it MUST run on medium/low end pcs also.
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Its not that we dont want those stunning visuals and great additions and scenery etc...Its just a matter of getting those with a nice and smooth performance that is what we hate. Just like already mentioned by simonmd...even with a pretty good system FS9 cant run very smooth even though the "min requirements" for it are a lot lower...Same with FS8 that im running. My system blows them away and yet unless its a low quality aircraft i have to set the graphics low to keep a decent 18-20 FPS. In a Posky im lucky to see 12-15 FPS and with a Meljet 7-10. Its nice that they come up with new sims and better upgrades but they advertise like everyone will be getting these unbelievable graphics. When in reality most of us will probably see a slide show. I found that with FS9...I had to return it because even with every graphic setting to its lowest i got a whopping 1-2 FPS or the amazing 4 i saw for a couple seconds
I love flight sim and MS is one of the better ones. But i like to spend $70 on a game and thats it....Not have to spend that $70 and then $200+ to upgrade the computer to get it running the way it should.
Right now i hold a nice 25 FPS once in the air (FS2002) and thats fine and dandy. But when i start decent and landing procedures i would really like to keep that liquid 25 and not drop to the 15-18 when i get within a couple miles of touchdown. Its not BAD but still a little bit jumpy to me. And thats with settings pretty low...
I guess im just one of those nuts that would rather enjoy a smooth but not highly detailed flight (though that would be great) as apposed to running a jumpy framerate with insane scenery
We will see when it comes out...but i aint jumpin and buying it even if i get my new system built
And when i said something about the preload i didnt mean the whole world. but at least a nice distance around the airport your starting at...that way it could concentrate more on loading the scenery ahead insted of whats already behind you
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Here are the system specs for my Dell Inspiron 9100 "Laptop" that costed me $1,600:
1. Pentium 4 with 2.4GHz
2. 512MB Ram
3. ATI Radeon 9700 [I thought I had a 9800] with only 64MB memory.
4. 40GB Hard Drive [but space doesn't matter much for the FS series].
5. Windows XP.
Remember, this is a laptop I have. Not a Desktop. Most of the time, it's overworked so much that the cooling fans sound similar to the Hercs that fly over the base I live at.
And yet, FS9 runs like a charm at higher settings [with or without an update for the video card]. And as an additional note, every piece of hardware inside my laptop are completely stock. No upgrades were ever made. In fact, all I ever did was simply maintain my computer by doing weekly scans, biweekly defrags, monthly updates, and yearly reinstall of Windows. That's all. A well maintained computer is a happy computer and can go a much longer way than an Alienware setup, IMHO.
So again, don't say that buying a new version of FS truely requires a brand new computer. It's possible [and I don't care how small the possibility just as long as the possibility exists] that all you will really need is an upgrade in Ram [which is slowly becoming cheeper].
So, everyone, do me a favor. Stop the pessimism about new, unreleased versions of FS. It's annoying and premature.
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So, everyone, do me a favor. Stop the pessimism about new, unreleased versions of FS. It's annoying and premature.
Exactly. The release is still almost a year away, and we simply don't know a lot. Speculation and unconfirmed rumours won't help
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Exactly. The release is still almost a year away, and we simply don't know a lot. Speculation and unconfirmed rumours won't help
Better close this forum up for a few more months then
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Triple_7, can't understand how you got such low performance with your system specs. Most of it is better than mine and that's the sort of fps' that I get sometimes and I don't even have a graphics card!
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Speculation and unconfirmed rumours won't help
On SimV? Surely not!!
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for upgrades and development and i'm very much looking forward to hearing about what FSX is like 'in reality' when it does eventualy come out. My point was just trying to calm down some of the frenzied "Oh, Oh, I want it now, looks great!" stuff because they may well be dissapointed.
Oh and Gunnerman, it
does not
have a new engine, otherwise it would not be backwardly compatible. MS has confirmed this already.
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Better close this forum up for a few more months then
Matt
Also, ban all FSX discussion, and threaten who does with the latest marmalade weapons
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Also, ban all FSX discussion, and threaten who does with the latest marmalade weapons
*Katahu opens his case of syringes*
Already ahead of you.
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Damn you guys.. why are you guys all so negative 'bout it all ??? "Oh the water textures can be better".. "it'll blow out ure computer".. "i dont get why its so great".. etc...
Think... if you guys are saying already it'lll blow ure computer, then you definately dont want any better water textures, as then the survival rate of ure computer will be even lower!!!!!
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Triple_7, can't understand how you got such low performance with your system specs. Most of it is better than mine and that's the sort of fps' that I get sometimes and I don't even have a graphics card!
I wish i understood it as well...Ive been told its anything from the proccessor to the PCI graphics. Its a mystery really...Then again this computer is also on its 4th or 5th hardrive already
Doesnt make any sence...As I've already mentioned...starting to collect parts for a new system...Hoping to get it done before June but depending on money it could take a lot longer
I just hope I can sell off most of my old computer junk. I dont need any of it and yet i dont want to just GIVE it away
(Sorry people but I paid $75 for this brand new...still practicaly new...and no lady, i will NOT sell it to you for a buck
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Still one of those, want, but out of reach type deals
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Damn you guys.. why are you guys all so negative 'bout it all ??? "Oh the water textures can be better".. "it'll blow out ure computer".. "i dont get why its so great".. etc...
Think... if you guys are saying already it'lll blow ure computer, then you definately dont want any better water textures, as then the survival rate of ure computer will be even lower!!!!!
Me and Essel were just making some sarcasm. In a way, he's right. It's just too early to speculate about FSX when we know almost nothing about FSX. Besides, from this point until the release date, all we will ever do is just spaculate [which gets us to nowhere].
I'm not being negative at all. I like the FS series so much, I will buy a new release the moment it hits the shelves [regardless of the price]. In fact, I even have a seperate external hard drive dedicated to it. I am also willing to upgrade for any new version [just as long as I have enough money in the bank].
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[just as long as I have enough money in the bank].
Have you tried bugging your *squad leader for your promotion?
*I'm not very familiar with the Air Force chain of command, but for me, my squad leader is my immediate supervisor.
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I'll be promoted soon anyways.
BTW, my supervisor is simply called NCOIC. He's a Master Sargeant Select. 8)
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NCOIC stands for 'Non-Commisioned Officer In Charge', atleast in the Army
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Well guys, I am going to do the best I can to trade up my 32 bit gear for 64 bit gear before Vista comes out and totally obsoletes my 32 bit gear. I need to trade up while I can still get enough value on my current stuff to make my cash outlay reduced for the new 64 bit stuff. After Vista comes out, I might as well keep my current system as is and just go buy a completely new one.
AMD 2800xp on gigabyte vt600l k7 triton overclocked @ 2.3 ghz, 768 PC 3200, 128 DDR 6600GT AGP, 60 gig,5200 rpm maxtor, 160gig 7200rpm WD, Sony FD Trinitron 19
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I don't think it'll be anything special. Regarding the screenshot, people said, good coastline, good textures, ...
you get a lot better than that in FS9, and that shot was most probably taken somewhere where the texture has been made good like close to NY, or London or Meigs. As soon as you fly a little bit further, ...? - WHAT ABOUT THE WHOLE OF EUROPE, or AFRICA!
And that crap about rivets. Who in the hell wants to see every little rivet. You're nuts!!
And with all the addons for FS9, it cant be better, even the default boeings are crap. They're just adding more planes (Airbus) with crappy panels and you'll end up having to look for better ones anyway!
Anyway, Not worth buying a new system, that I'd need to take a loan from the bank to buy!
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEENNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't think it'll be anything special. Regarding the screenshot, people said, good coastline, good textures, ...
you get a lot better than that in FS9, and that shot was most probably taken somewhere where the texture has been made good like close to NY, or London or Meigs. As soon as you fly a little bit further, ...? - WHAT ABOUT THE WHOLE OF EUROPE, or AFRICA!
And that crap about rivets. Who in the hell wants to see every little rivet. You're nuts!!
And with all the addons for FS9, it cant be better, even the default boeings are crap. They're just adding more planes (Airbus) with crappy panels and you'll end up having to look for better ones anyway!
Anyway, Not worth buying a new system, that I'd need to take a loan from the bank to buy!
Those of you who talk like that don't usually see the big picture. Are you forgetting that M$ provides the shell while the addon developers provide the cool stuff that expands the sim? Hell, we managed to make Google Earth display flight plans made in FS. In fact, making new addons that make the sim better and better is a never-ending cycle.
FS95 was considered the best sim. Then came FS98 and FS2000, and FS2002 and finally FS9. Each newer version ending up to be more better than the last. What makes you think that FSX won't be better? What makes you think that the rivets are there just for show? Addon developers can greatly benefit from that feature as did many addons that took advantage of the rain drops that appeared on the DVCs of FS9. Once FSX is released, I bet you $10 that us addon developers will provide you with addons [using FSX's new features] that will make FS9 look like old school.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if we came up with a tool that better and more fun than FLIPS*.
*FLIPS: A tool that uses FS to make flight plans, which are then transfered to Google Earth for dislaying them in 3D.
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i know exactly what your talking about. especially because of the fact ive got 200+ aircraft added onto my fs
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