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Another one of PSW's big mess-ups (Read 465 times)
Mar 25th, 2004 at 9:04am

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Look at this, it figures that a 12-year-old runs PSW, i'm waiting till 18 to start my own DG.   Tongue Tongue Tongue Roll Eyes Roll Eyes ??? ???

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Ok, lets get a few things straight...

First of all, an He-162 umm, well, isn't a Be-200 Tongue

Second of all, He-162's do not have passenger doors or thrust reverseres, or spoilers.

Also, you don't charge 5$ for stuff, otherwise, they'll think it's low quality. Roll Eyes Tongue Lips Sealed









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Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2004 at 4:49pm

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cheap payware Tongue

now they sunk to a new low... Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #2 - Mar 26th, 2004 at 9:17pm

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heh amusing *However* it is not my place to comment as i would not like it done to my work.
dont do to others which you would not like done to you is one of my many mottos.

still, be an interesting salamander wont it.
im sure it'll be rectified soon enough.
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Reply #3 - Mar 26th, 2004 at 10:03pm

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Perhaps I'm confused...

What does screwing up a HTML page have to do with the quality of the work they do in A/C design?

The webmaster obviously used an older entry as a template (common enough) and just forgot to update it.

btw, If you're going to wait until you're 18 to form a design group, please wait until then to criticize someone else's.

It's just a matter of being polite.
 

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Reply #4 - Mar 28th, 2004 at 3:32pm

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Hello,

I apologize for the inconvenience, it will be fixed very shortly. However, Mr. Mike Thurman, for an 11-year old, the world is not perfect, get to know that because for the rest of your life, you'll have to live with it.  Wink   If you also want to attack our group because you don't enjoy our policies, please do it so it makes sense and has a forwarding idea. By the way, the website says that, the value there is ESTIMATED - meaning an approximate calculation.
Thank you.

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Reply #5 - Mar 28th, 2004 at 5:44pm

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Reply #6 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 5:19am

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Hello,

I apologize for the inconvenience, it will be fixed very shortly. However, Mr. Mike Thurman, for an 11-year old, the world is not perfect, get to know that because for the rest of your life, you'll have to live with it.
Thank you.


Well, first of all, get the facts straight Mr. Jamesy Boy, I'm 12, so there's another blunder of yours. You can use the excuse when you mess up that "the world is imperfect" cause it's your problem.


Also, that sounds kind of funny, you can't criticeize my age, when yours is the same Tongue



Sorry about this guy simviators,

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Reply #7 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 10:56am

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#1) What does age have to do with this?

#2) Everyone makes mistakes once in awhile; let it slide, lest you be the one who is being made an example of next time.
 

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Reply #8 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 11:28am

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Well, first of all, get the facts straight Mr. Jamesy Boy, I'm 12, so there's another blunder of yours. You can use the excuse when you mess up that "the world is imperfect" cause it's your problem.


Also, that sounds kind of funny, you can't criticeize my age, when yours is the same Tongue



Sorry about this guy simviators,

Mike


Mike - James has always been quite reasonable in his postings.

Frankly, I am surprised that you would take a minor matter and blow it to such proportions.  Age has nothing to do with flightsim modelling - you either can, or can't do it.

A more reasonable approach would have been to presume that James knows his aircraft enough to know that a Heinkel Salamander is not a Beriev 200, and if anything, to have let him know - in a private e-mail or PM - that the website information needs correcting.

Unless the person reveals their age, I presume that a poster here is an adult, and as such, reflects adult behaviour - respect to others' postings, etc.  I give no concession to age when considering a posters opinions, and general behaviour.

I will be the first to admit that there are people whose postings I will nit pick - Hagar, Ozzy, Woody, Fozzer - when I'm in the mood to do so, just as I know there are many who are ready to pounce on one of my petty mistakes.

IcedFoxTrotter summed up the issue best. ...




 

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Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 3:13pm

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Hello fellow Simviation pilots,

Thank you for your support. Mr. Mike Thurman is upset about our Team Policies so that is why he is disagreeing strongly against my errors, I have taken that in the consideration and the policies will be alternated a little. The website is being fixed now as I post. I am also quite questioned :

You can use the excuse when you mess up that "the world is imperfect" cause it's your problem.

Is that suppose to mean that I created the world or something ?  Wink I apologize if I got the idea mistaken.

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Reply #10 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 3:36pm

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Is that suppose to mean that I created the world or something ?  Wink I apologize if I got the idea mistaken.

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James


James - you mean to tell me you didn't know?  Okay, I'll have to take it up with my fellow moderators, but we had declared you "Infallible Creator of the World" for this month.

 

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Reply #11 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 3:53pm

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I'm not taking sides but I think James handled this rather well.
I dont know why [well, i did read James' post] this stemmed off to be such an anti-PSW post but still, I do commend you on how you took it in your stride mate.

Wait until you get a real complain: hopefully you wont ever- but that'll test your coolness lol! Believe me, I know what i'm on about there. You can be as cool as cool but there'll always be one person who will try to kick you down.

.. and thats what the AK-47\74 were created for. Reeee-laxion.

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Reply #12 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 6:23pm

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Also, you don't charge 5$ for stuff, otherwise, they'll think it's low quality


Ok. first of all this isn´t totally true, it can be a smart marketing move, i think the creator have the discretion to put whatever pricetag he thinks should be the right one, with the increasing prices on add-ons these days, this could target a big portion of the market. Afterall, he should post some screenshots of is work and the customer can see the quality of the final product.

Now about age.....i´ve met 30 somethings that really are 8 year old infants and met 14 year old guys who can easily run a 90+employees company....so age isn´t an issue in my opinion.
Now , james.....i suggest that you should  not fall into provocations of any sort, listen to the complaints, try to solve them, ,and when necesary admit your errors.After all that´s what great bussinesmen do.
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Reply #13 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 7:58pm

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Hello lads,

Thank you very much for your tips and suggestions, I have taken in mind and I will act based upon them.  Grin I am also very happy that I got the "Infallible Creator of the World" for the month,  Wink.  I consider having a prejudice against children doing acts that adults can do a part of National Socialism, I will not mention it anymore because it is an evil and unjoyous sign. Anyways, I thank you again for the tippes !

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Reply #14 - Mar 29th, 2004 at 8:41pm
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Well, first of all, get the facts straight Mr. Jamesy Boy, I'm 12, so there's another blunder of yours. You can use the excuse when you mess up that "the world is imperfect" cause it's your problem.


Also, that sounds kind of funny, you can't criticeize my age, when yours is the same Tongue



Sorry about this guy simviators,

Mike


12? I thought you had to be at least 13 to join Simv? Or did they fax in that permission slip?

I'm 13, but this is just sad. Last time I did something like this, I got my ass in a sling w/ the developers, AlphaSim. I accused them of piracy. They explained it. Done and over with. We're great friends now.

And anyway, what does it matter if he charges $5 for his merchandise? Not bad IMO. It's his stuff, so let him sell how he wants.

Don't criticize the developers too much. They just may end up leaving. Embarrassed
 
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Reply #15 - Mar 30th, 2004 at 10:58am

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Don't criticize the developers too much. They just may end up leaving. Embarrassed


Mark his word. They're all too true.  Smiley
 

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Reply #16 - Mar 30th, 2004 at 12:47pm

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Aye you're not wrong Dan.
Mike we are all human (even James, inspite of his exulted position this month), and we all foul-up occassionally. Heck I'm an English teacher and sometimes I read one of my posts here and spot half a dozen mistakes (sometimes even spelling Shocked although I think those are largely typos).
If you're going to nit-pick nothing ever gets done. My policy, get on with the job, the details can be fiddled around with later. Even SimV has wee problems sometimes, Pete always fixes them once he's had a couple of whinging messages, so even adults make mistakes. If you think otherwise, you're kidding yourself Wink

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Reply #17 - Mar 31st, 2004 at 7:53am

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Hello lads,

Thank you very much for your tips and suggestions, I have taken in mind and I will act based upon them.  Grin I am also very happy that I got the "Infallible Creator of the World" for the month,  Wink.  I consider having a prejudice against children doing acts that adults can do a part of National Socialism, I will not mention it anymore because it is an evil and unjoyous sign. Anyways, I thank you again for the tippes !

James


prejudice against children?

I wouldn't be 100% sure that makes sense Tongue Cuz i'm one Tongue and poiting out an error isn't "National Socialism" Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue


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Reply #18 - Mar 31st, 2004 at 10:14am

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prejudice against children?

I wouldn't be 100% sure that makes sense Tongue Cuz i'm one Tongue and poiting out an error isn't "National Socialism" Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue


Mike Grin



Mike - cut it out.  You just aren't getting the point here.

#1 - You are free to express your opinion - just make sure it's expressed in a reasonable manner.

#2 - There have been references made in these postings that will make sense later, once you study world history.

#3 - Forgetting to change the title on a copied/pasted section of a web page hardly consitutes a "big mess-up"

#4 - By continuing to miss the whole point, you're not making yourself look too good in the long run - at this point, you're spitting directly into the wind.
 

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Reply #19 - Mar 31st, 2004 at 10:46am

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understanding the meaning of that i think Felix means we should end the thread.. it gets more pointless each day.

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To err is human, to really foul up you need a computer Wink
 

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Reply #21 - Mar 31st, 2004 at 3:46pm

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Hello,

I agree with Felix. However, I am quite fascinated by Mike Thurman's signature. How does he know I hate him because I don't hate children, it is not their fault that they do not know what they are doing because they have no matured yet.  Anyways, this will be my last post regarding this subject.

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Reply #22 - Mar 31st, 2004 at 4:25pm

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 Anyways, this will be my last post regarding this subject.

Respectfully,
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It's also the end of the month, so today's your last day of Infallibility.  You go back to being your normal screwed up self tomorrow.



 

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Reply #23 - Apr 13th, 2004 at 2:20pm

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I have the solution!!!! - Let's get down to 'brass tacks' here!!

It sounds like there is some professional rivalry going on here? (my mistake - surely!!?).

I am a punter and am only interested in the end product and (funnily enough), the cheaper the better! (I'll have all the Ferarri's I can get for a £fiver - thankyou).

Let's have a head to head test between the best offerings they have, open a poll and then we can all decide who makes the best a/c, appoint a pre-pubescent 'God of Simulation' and then all get on with our lives. I am annoyed because this thread made me write this.  Wink
 
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Reply #24 - Apr 13th, 2004 at 4:07pm

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<groan>  this thread has ended it's usefulness.

Okay, we all vented our steam, let's put it past us.

We all know that I make the best payware out there, all others are improved imitations...Smiley

 

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