Yo Student,
  Lately I've been hooked on 1930's aircraft, ya know fast bi-planes (almost 300 mph) and monoplanes with fixed landing gear.  Those pesky little aircraft were maneuverable as hell and some were very heavily armed, 50 cals. MGs and in some cases 20 mm cannon, could do alot of damage real fast.  For me nothing beats the thrill of trying to follow an I-15 through a split S!! 
  Also that period of time seems to have been over looked by many and aerial warfare in the skies over China and Spain forgotten, even though they set the stage for air combat in the Second World War.
  Runner up is jets with GUNS.  These were the last of the gun slingers. Be it a Mig-15 against a F-86 or a F-8 Crusader vs. a Mig-17 the spirit of the "duel in the air" was there.
  Either way its gotta be guns!  Missiles are to impersonal.

   
     

Denishc, You have a valid point.   8)   I have some of them there older flight sims for WW I and you are right them there more then one wing devils can turn. In the burn department they are a little slow however. (I think I could walk faster)  The one thing I noticed with them in a game is they seam to take so long to get from the air base to the war! No wonder they were stationed so close to the front!  

I'm with you on the missiles, and that was the point with the NFL statement. It is not a game unless you are in the trenches slugging it out!  

~S!  STU  

Props with Guns all the way!! I just love planes with big fans in front and a huge brace of machine guns in the wings! Using this rule I have gound my perfect plane!

Hawker Hurricane MkIIB/C/D

Yo P4,
  How about helo dogfighting!  Now there's a concept, I know some have talked about it but I've never seen it done.  Would it be like combat in zero g?

JETS

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This was in the Jokes section
"Helicoptors can't fly, they're just so ugly the Earth repels them" 

I'd like to see CFS4 as a cold war sim that takes place between 1945-1970. They should include aircraft like the Saber, Avro Arrow, Hawker Sea Fury, Avro Vulcan, MiG 15, odoo, P-80, etc. That way you'd get a healthy balace of prop and jet. I'd make the game dynamic like CFS3, it would start out historical but what you do effects the whole outcome of the war. For example, say your doing recon for the CCCP (USSR) and you accidentally blow up a US civilian target, this could lead to the US nuking Russia. The cold was is better the than late WWII environment of CFS3 because there were a million things that could have gone right/wrong.

Another thing that could happen is say your playing for Canada (Playable nations in my version would inculde US, Canada, UK, USSR, Korea, and Vietnam), in one game Canada might put the Arrow into production while it might not in another, make everything dynamic that's what people like. In my idea of CFS4, everything would be variable. We have the technology to do it so lets turn up the simulated heat on game play.

Yeah, a Korean War CFS4 sim would be pretty cool, considering the fact that props were also involved such as the P-51 (early  years), Corsair, Skyraider, oh, and of course--the B-29. A game with Sabres and Migs would be cool, with all that bombing and dogfighting that really took place during the war.

[color=Blue][/color]I'd say the next CFS version to come out should be about the late Pacific theater during WWII.  The Corsairs would bew improved versions over CFS2 and the new product could also have Mustangs, as well as advanced versions of Jap planes and even some experimental types.

Microsoft would do well to come out with a Jet simulator separate from the CFS products.  I think it should include modern aircraft like the F-15, F-16, F-18 along with other American types and Russian planes like the SU-33, Mig-29, SU-27 and so on.  It could also have the Eurofighter, the Harrier, the Viggen, the Mirage...  maybe even the F-22 and the Joint Strike Fighter.  It could have missiles that lock on and the airplanes that FS2004 has for military jets could be used for the new Jet fighter simulator.  It wouldn't really be hard as all that would have to be done is take FS2004 and make it possible to shoot guns and missiles and the other things a fighter simulaotr would require for gameplay.

I would hope that Microsoft would give it serious consideration!

I'd love CFS4 to be CFS3 like but then in the pacific. More Air to ground stuff seems cool to me....Could include the Netherlands indies and the Dutch AF there

I don't care what they make as long as the gameplay is good. I wish new games had good career modes like Sierra's original Red Baron.

i enjoy digfighting in props, because its more "personal" than shooting a plane down with a guided missile from 5 miles away. id like to see CFS4 as something from cold war as well, because it has a mix of both. i could also see something about the vietnam war, a good mix of old and new props and jets. (AD-1 skyraiders rock!) the migs, sabres, phantoms, etc were also a huge impact, plus, i think it would be fun to try to intercept a "Bear" to shoot down with a carrier based plane.-edit: yes, even a korean war sim would be an excellent idea, there isnt a huge following or understanding by a lot of younger folks about that war.  


my biggest beef with jets in a flight sim, at least from M$, is that the planes arent accurate. C-130's, one F-14(mostly), and maybe another jet or two are accurate, but for the most part, theyre nothing like the real thing; acceleration, turn rates, roll rates, engine output, cockpit layout(in many cases), and a few other things. if im gonna fly a fighter, and im looking for realistic flight dynamics and input reactions, the fighters most folks design arent accurate. theyre fun to play with especially at low level, dont get me wrong, but theyre not realistic.

I"m a World war two guy. I love jets but my real love is prop since they wear more difficult to fly and where the original method use to fly. Its simply more fun. Jets are fun to fly too, but they do not have the romatic feeling that props give you.

I would like them to develope CFS4 to be base on the Pacific Theater since the European Theater is simple over done.

There are just to many European base Fligt Simulators and other pograms in the Market today. Its a little over done. It might turn some potential future Sim pilots off. How many times can you shot down the same enemy before it gets boring!

But I would like to be able to expanded it to other Theater as well. Like Europe in World  war two or  Korea and World war one plus the cold war and Modern times.


James007