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Title: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 3:18pm

Lets see if anyone can tell what it is, but I highly doubt it since its fairly new and there is literally no detail right now.

If anyone wants to help/has experience in gmax/3ds with texturing send me a message. I would like some help with this. ;)

Also Mitch... can you teach me how to export properly for FSX? :)

This is the first export so I have a lot of cleaning up to do... ;D

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by gtirob01 on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 3:39pm

Hmmm, Citation Latitude?

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 4:23pm

Nope! Not even a Cessna jet... here is the fixed wing root:

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by jetprop on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 4:53pm

nimrod?
its hard to see the size.

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by Mitch. on Oct 25^th, 2011 at 6:04am

Wow, glad to see your back into it Jordan. Its a great feeling seeing something you work on actually in the sim. And I'm sorry. ;D

If you can see the model in the sim then it has exported just fine. ;)

Perhpas an Embraer Phenom 300?

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Oct 25^th, 2011 at 9:46am

Mitch. wrote on Oct 25^th, 2011 at 6:04am:

Its actually going to be a Hawker 4000.

And I ask how to export because I exported as a Fs9 model and I want to make it a FSX native model... which I don't quite know how to do. ;)

Also here is a new render:

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by jrbirdman on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 6:35am

Looks great!! What platform are you aiming for with this beauty? Kind regards, Jeremy

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by alrot on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 2:33pm

wow! that begins to looks good ! :o

do you know how to cut Jordan and Mitch?
I mean to open the cockpit and landing gears etc..

anything just let me know

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by Xpand on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 5:04pm

Looks nice, but you might want to take care of the dark edges on the wing. They're usualy caused by the wing having a very proeminent edge separating the bottom wing from the top wing. That's solved with using prevent indirect smoothing and autosmooth on the smooth modifier.

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 7:22pm

Xpand wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

I still need to cut out the flap parts and such, hopefully I can do that soon and fix it.

alrot wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

wow! that begins to looks good ! :o

do you know how to cut Jordan and Mitch?
I mean to open the cockpit and landing gears etc..

anything just let me know

Yeah, I'm going to need a lot of help with that, and probably the animating too. (I can model just not animate yet) ;D

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by Mitch. on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 6:47am

skoker wrote on Oct 25^th, 2011 at 9:46am:

And I ask how to export because I exported as a Fs9 model and I want to make it a FSX native model... which I don't quite know how to do. ;)

In that case, you will need to use the FSX supplied Gmax within the SDK. Then just export as an .mdl and it will give you a bunch of options to choose such as DDS textures or BMP textures. If all goes well and no problems occur during the export process it should be a native FSX model, check in FSX if the model has self-shadowing. :)

BTW, looking good. 8-)

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by alrot on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 9:40am

wait a minute :-? are those edited pics?

are you using gmax? I mean I'm SO willing to help YOU Jordan and Mitch ,but I can't guess what you know and what you don't , all you have to do is ask

I see also that Mitch haven't exported to FSX game his
Beechcraft Starship :-/

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 10:42am

I've tried to install the FSX gmax but it doesn't like me and will only give me the FS9 options. I have no idea on how to fix it. Anyone have an idea or just wants to send me theirs? :)

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by alrot on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 11:02am

skoker wrote on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 10:42am:

I've tried to install the FSX gmax but it doesn't like me and will only give me the FS9 options. I have no idea on how to fix it. Anyone have an idea or just wants to send me theirs? :)

ok ,I'm sure you are in Windows 7 ,I'm on Xp :Make sure you have added the Gmax pack inside Gmax gamepacks like this (Gmax gamepack is in the SDK)

To export a model first you got to give it a Friendly name,like this

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 1:50pm

Good news: It's now FSX native! :D

Bad news: Smoothing issue... :-/

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by alrot on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 2:59pm

skoker wrote on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 1:50pm:

Good news: It's now FSX native! :D

Bad news: Smoothing issue... :-/

LOL::

that's easy right click on the object ,select:"Convert To > Editable Poly

select all the object with the mouse left click holden and click in the right panel auto smooth

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 5:38pm

Actually its a format error... I found the fix here:
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110116

Thanks anyway Alex, you help is greatly appreciated. :)

I would like to tart texturing though. If you have any tutorials for that or can teach me on how you do it I would appreciate it as well. I've textured boxes and stuff like that before but when you get to the complex model it Is way different. ;D

Also how to make mirrored things not be invisible? (I'm such a noob! lol ;D)

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by Mitch. on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 3:53am

alrot wrote on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 9:40am:

I see also that Mitch haven't exported to FSX game his
Beechcraft Starship :-/

No problems exporting on my end Alex.

See here (first export early build) and here (later build)

Jordan, you might want to change the title of this thread for more exposure. ;)

Title: Re: Hawker 4000 Project
Post by skoker on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 6:21pm

The good news:

The Bad News:

Any solution? ;D

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by Xpand on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 6:41pm

You mirrored the fuselage using that godforsaken button didn't you? Shame on you... You should have used the mirror modifier... If that's not the problem try using the normals modifier and flip the normals on that side...

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by hyperpep111 on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 6:46pm

Great looking plane :o. I'll probably never get to that level of degree so Perhaps I should start blabbing about textures ;D ;D ;D ::).
And Xpand, Can He use Ctrl+Z?

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by alrot on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 6:46pm

xpand is right, BTW what airplane is this?

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by Xpand on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 7:33pm

He can just delete the bad faces and mirror the fuselage again, this time using the mirror modifier...

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by alrot on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 8:20pm

Xpand wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 7:33pm:

He can just delete the bad faces and mirror the fuselage again, this time using the mirror modifier...

or in Modifiers search for Mesh Editing/normal/flip normals , I think you already said that , there are many ways LOL but its looking great, isn't it?

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by Mitch. on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 11:10pm

alrot wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 6:46pm:

xpand is right, BTW what airplane is this?

Hawker 4000. Coming along very nicely Jordan, the cabin door is on the other side but you already knew that. ;D

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Oct 29^th, 2011 at 12:47am

Mitch. wrote on Oct 28^th, 2011 at 11:10pm:

...Jordan, the cabin door is on the other side but you already knew that. ;D

Really?!?! :o :o :o ;D

Two more for the night/morning. These are just common textures for now. Hopefully I will split them soon but I'm having a problem now with the way they are being mapped.... I don't quite know how to explain it... :-/

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by Xpand on Oct 29^th, 2011 at 6:40am

I suggest you finish the whole basic plane, before mapping it seriously (The fuselage and wings, including the stabs and other details, with all the doors, windows, gear wells and such cut). Then take a picture of left, right, top, bottom depending of the part you want to map, for example the fuselage you need just the left and right side. If you want more detail you can also take a pic at the flat bottom parts. Then just paste everything in a texture sheet and try to preserve space, or not if you have no trouble in using multiple texture sheets, but try to put stuff as close as possible with no big white spaces in between.

To map the fuselage just map the first side, it can be left or right. Then select the polys of the oposite side and, with those selected, add a uvw map modifier and make it square, then add a uvwunwrap modifier and place the polys on their correspondent space.

Ah, and take the pics in orthogonal views, not perspctive otherwise they won't fit the model when you try to map it.

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Jan 28^th, 2012 at 3:08pm

Finally added a tail and started engines! :D Hopefully I will get to work more on this in the coming months :)

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by XFalcon750 on Jan 28^th, 2012 at 4:23pm

I can't wait, I love private jets!

Title: Re: Mitch sparked my intrest again...
Post by skoker on Jan 31^st, 2012 at 4:04pm

Anyone want to help make the reverser and cockpit? :D

Added fan blades ;)